Posted on 02/09/2008 11:44:24 AM PST by Jim Robinson
Folks, there still may be a slim chance to force a deadlocked convention. I'm no election math wizard, but I believe it's still mathematically possible for McCain to NOT receive the requisite number of delegates to win the nomination. But it would require a great turnout of passionate conservative voters in the remaining primary states to accomplish.
The trick would be for all remaining primary conservative voters to vote for their favorite candidate as if he were still in the race. Fred's name is still on the ballot. So is Hunter's and Romney's. Shoot, vote for Huckabee, Paul or even Giuliani if you wish. Anyone but McCain!
None of the others can possibly win, but it's still possible for McCain to lose. Let it go to the convention and force the GOP to publicly fight it out as if its very life depended on it. Because it does.
What do we have to lose? As it stands now, more and more conservatives are declaring their intentions to sit out the general. If McCain is our candidate, looks like Hillary/Obama will be our next president. Don't let it happen. Vote for any GOPer other than McCain!
I followed exactly the same progression. I was in Fred's court to begin with and also supported Duncan Hunter.
I won't be able to vote in my primary...didn't get my absentee ballot in time. I'm depending on my FReeper family in Houston to get 'er done and block McCain.
DU awaits you with open arms. Bye now!
IBTZ
“Fine, then go back to the old system of smoky backrooms.’
And who do you think is deciding these elections...the voters? PLEASE! The only difference is they’re too big a bunch of PC pussies to smoke!
Dane, you certainly have put us in our place. You know more about what is actually transpiring than any of us. You or Dano (another Huck supporter) KNEW Hunter was going to endorse Huckabee before Hunter even quit. There was no reason to even think that. How did you know that Dane?
Those who believe that it is still possible to defeat Senator McCain probably also believe buying a lottery ticket will assuage their worries about retirement.
Im with you on that point. Any Body but the Clintoons.
For a guy that would rather be on the saltwater more than ANY other place on the planet, I liked your fishing approach this the problem. ;>)
My house was built shortly after the Civil War and she is still standing strong. I have a 30’ steel flag pole in my front yard, there is an American flag at the top of that pole as there has been for over 25 years that I have owned in this old pile of boards.
I don’t own a white flag either. Anyone that want’s to drop my flag is going to have to fight for it and on that day... be prepared to meet God.
My point was my utter disdain for Dane.
Nothing to do with the elections.
Dane has been promoting illegal alien criminal scum for years. I don’t like Dane or his criminals.
If Dane and the amnesty bunch of traitors (both parties) are elected this might be the last time a vote for an “R” might matter.
We have at least 40 million of these scum bags here now and with amnesty there will be another 40 million illegal aliens voting “D” in the next election.
What you are contending with here is each and every state Republican organization preaching the unity sermon. That sells well. I’m not saying your idea is bad (though a Huckabee win would be great in my book), but I am saying you are going to get a lot of opposition from the party powerful. They think they speak for all of us. They don’t!
If we want to come up with a strategy to prevent McCain from being our nominee, we need to become familiar with the rules. There might be a way to squeeze McCain out even if he accumulates enough votes in the states’ primaries. I think the RNC could take matters into its own hands and reduce the amount of delegates in the states McCain won.
http://www.gop.com/About/AboutRead.aspx?Guid=a4cc4fcb-6043-4af2-860a-41ae912a2c42
I look at what's best for my family and I - McCain ain't it!
Whoops! Make that “my family and ME!”
I was going to wait and when Don Manzullo's (US House)folks call and ask if they can put a yard sign in my front yard, I will let them know that if John McCain is the Republican candidate, I won't vote for him and I won't vote for Don Manzullo either.
But that won't be until after the convention, so the time to make that contact is now. If enough conservatives make enough noise, I don't care what the delegate count is: John McCain will get the message one way or another. It worked on the Amnesty bill, and it can work for this too.
WHAT?!
It's precisely by splitting the conservative vote that McCain is now frontrunner. He's won the independents, the pro-war crowd, and the Rhinos. Now is the time to throw all support behind either Ron Paul or the Huckster. As I recollect, McCain has outright won only a handful of states. Conservatives need to unite behind one candidate. What am I missing here?
Obama is as thoroughly avowed an Alinsky-ite as Hillary! Clinton. squish here.
I don't think this would be the way to accomplish what you want. It seems to me that all such protest votes would have to go to one particular candidate or two (in winner-take-all states, Queeg would have to be defeated outright).
I somehow doubt that Queeg with a plurality and the majority of votes scattered among three or five or twenty others would deprive Queeg of the delegates.
Where did you copy that from? I actually coded that stuff by hand. LOL!
The Green Papers... that is one of the best if not the best I’ve found that has good data formatted in various formats, alphabetical, chronilogical, democrat, republican, etc.
Go to either of links I posted in my post and click. From there you can work your way around the various pages. It is very good info and has data going back a few presidential cycles..... I’ve been using them since 2000.
I don’t buy into all things superficial and blanket declarations. What I would like from you is an explanation for that one sentence about a private plan being government funded.
I can see that Romney has faults. None of us is without flaws. But it doesn’t serve the conservative cause to say empty things like, “It’s *private* but the *government* pays for it.” You have to admit, that sounds like something someone from the Caracas School of Economics might say. Justifying it with, “Romney is a typical Massachusetts liberal” is, again, only vapid.
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