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To: adopt4Christ; DoughtyOne
Post #17 - well said.

Members of both genders are culpable in this unraveling of our society. It is driven by self-centered, irresponsible behavior.

21 posted on 02/08/2008 1:39:24 AM PST by Allegra (A chicken in every pot and a pair of new socks every day.)
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To: Allegra
"Members of both genders are culpable in this unraveling of our society."

Yes--women like Susan B. Anthony, effeminates like Henry Beecher (who preached in favor of adultery and did it himself) and those who cut labor costs by supporting it (Fortune 500s filed briefs in favor of "affirmative action,""Grutter v. Bollinger," Michigan University.


26 posted on 02/08/2008 1:45:51 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Allegra
It is driven by self-centered, irresponsible behavior.

This is what you get when you drive religion out of society.
And why drive religion out of society? So you can do whatever you damn well please, shoving your jubblies in any warm spot you can find, without guilt or consequences.

75 posted on 02/08/2008 5:38:00 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Allegra

You know, when you’ve spent years paying for support for your children, your ex wife goes on weekend trips to Palm Springs, San Diego, Las Vegas... and you children’s clothes are not replaced in years and they get left alone at the age of 13 and 14 and there isn’t a damned thing you can do about it, come back and talk to me about how men are half the problem.

When you’ve had to make payments for the support of a child for 18 years after you had a one night stand with a woman who claimed that was when the child was conceived, five years later you found out the kid wasn’t yours after all, and the judge forced you to continue to pay for 13 more years come back and tell me how men are half the problem.

Let me know when your wife says it’s over and you’re forced to leave everything you own and the people who have been the core of your existance for the last 15 years.

Then when you don’t have a car, don’t have a place to bring the kids for weekend visits, can’t get back on your feet because half your salary is being taken before the check is printed and your wife is cohabiting with the boy friend that mysteriously popped up days after you left the home, come back and talk to me about men being the problem.

If a man decides to end the realtionship, it’s like saying, okay, I don’t want anything I used to have, including any semblence of being a father any longer. If the woman decides she doesn’t want the relationship it’s basicly open season on the husband. She doesn’t lose a damned thing. Hell, half his income will still be coming through.

Imagine a situation where your husband decided he didn’t want to have you around any longer. You are told to leave the home. You are told to keep sending money to that home. Your children are told you are a tramp. When you go to pick them up, if you can, they are dressed like orphans, never ready and if you say anything about it, you’re considered to be harassing your ex. You don’t have a car. You have some really low class dwelling because you don’t have enough funds left after paying child support. It takes you years to get back on your feet. Meanwhile your husgand is taking your child support to take weekend trips with the woman he was seeing before he broke up with you. Soon they’re living together, they have two full incomes coming in and if you miss one payment (if it isn’t taken by court order before you get your check) you’re in trouble with the court. Anotherwords, you husband now has access to 2.5 incomes and you have access to half of one. And this goes on until the kids reach 18 years of age.

You ladies mean well, but you haven’t got clue one.

The above scenario almost never confronts women. It confront’s men on a broad scale.

Now, go spout off about “MEN”, those dirty scoundrels who stole your youth.


151 posted on 02/08/2008 10:46:06 AM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Allegra; adopt4Christ

“Say Adam, let’s go get that fruit from the tree. C’Mon! If you LOVE me!!!” ;-)


257 posted on 02/08/2008 1:24:42 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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