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Uproar as archbishop says sharia law inevitable in UK
The Guardian ^ | Friday February 8, 2008 | Riazat Butt

Posted on 02/07/2008 6:24:11 PM PST by indcons

The Archbishop of Canterbury drew criticism from across the political spectrum last night after he backed the introduction of sharia law in Britain and argued that adopting some aspects of it seemed "unavoidable".

Rowan Williams, the most senior figure in the Church of England, said that giving Islamic law official status in the UK would help to achieve social cohesion because some Muslims did not relate to the British legal system.

His comments, in a lecture on civil and religious law given at the Royal Courts of Justice, were swiftly rebutted by the prime minister's spokesman, who insisted British law would be based on British values and that sharia law would be no justification for acting against national law.

"Our general position is that sharia law cannot be used as a justification for committing breaches of English law, nor should the principles of sharia law be included in a civil court for resolving contractual disputes.

"If there are specific instances like stamp duty, where changes can be made in a way that's consistent with British law and British values, in a way to accommodate the values of fundamental Muslims, that is something the government would look at."

The Anglican primate was also criticised by the Tory peer Sayeeda Warsi, shadow minister for community cohesion and social action.

"The archbishop's comments are unhelpful and may add to the confusion that already exists in our communities ... We must ensure that people of all backgrounds and religions are treated equally before the law. Freedom under the law allows respect for some religious practices. But let's be absolutely clear: all British citizens must be subject to British laws developed through parliament and the courts."

Sharia law sets out a broad code of conduct for all aspects of life

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmies; eurabia; europeanchristians; islam; muslims; nonchristiancult; rowanwilliams; ukmuslims
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To: dr_who_2
Rowan the Gorsedd of Bards --- needs to be defrocked by the Druids.
41 posted on 02/08/2008 7:33:29 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("We look for things. Things that make us go." Grebnedlog)
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To: indcons

“Rowan Williams, the most senior figure in the Church of England, said that giving Islamic law official status in the UK would help to achieve social cohesion because some Muslims did not relate to the British legal system.”

Satan has willing workers in the UK it appears.


42 posted on 02/08/2008 7:36:57 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“In a church that accepts the legitimacy of contraception, the absolute condemnation of same-sex relations of intimacy must rely either on an abstract fundamentalist deployment of a number of very ambiguous biblical texts, or on a problematic and nonscriptural theory about natural complementarity, applied narrowly and crudely to physical differentiation without regard to psychological structures.”

Rowan Williams

7:80 And Lot! (Remember) when he said unto his folk: Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?
7:81 Lo! ye come with lust unto men instead of women. Nay, but ye are wanton folk.

26:165 What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males,
26:166 And leave the wives your Lord created for you ? Nay, but ye are froward folk.

27:54 And Lot! when he said unto his folk: Will ye commit abomination knowingly ?
27:55 Must ye needs lust after men instead of women ? Nay, but ye are folk who act senselessly.

http://www.sodomylaws.org/world/saudi_arabia/saudinews14.htm

Saudi Arabians Behead Three Accused Gays
Gay.com / PlanetOut.com Network, January 2, 2002

SUMMARY: Saudi Arabia officials executed three men on Tuesday for homosexual acts and molesting boys, according to the Saudi Press Agency.

Saudi Arabia officials executed three men on Tuesday for homosexual acts and molesting boys, according to the Saudi Press Agency.

The men were publicly beheaded in the city of Abha after being convicted in an Islamic court.

The charges against Ali bin Hattan bin Saad, Mohammad bin Suleiman bin Mohammad and Mohammad bin Khalil bin Abdullah included “engaging in the extreme obscenity and ugly acts of homosexuality, marry among themselves and molesting the young.”

At least 122 people were executed in Saudi Arabia during 2001, according to a Reuters report. Public beheading is a reportedly common means of execution in the Islamic kingdom for murderers, rapists, homosexuals and drug dealers.



43 posted on 02/08/2008 7:43:01 AM PST by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“In a church that accepts the legitimacy of contraception, the absolute condemnation of same-sex relations of intimacy must rely either on an abstract fundamentalist deployment of a number of very ambiguous biblical texts, or on a problematic and nonscriptural theory about natural complementarity, applied narrowly and crudely to physical differentiation without regard to psychological structures.”

Rowan Williams

7:80 And Lot! (Remember) when he said unto his folk: Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?
7:81 Lo! ye come with lust unto men instead of women. Nay, but ye are wanton folk.

26:165 What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males,
26:166 And leave the wives your Lord created for you ? Nay, but ye are froward folk.

27:54 And Lot! when he said unto his folk: Will ye commit abomination knowingly ?
27:55 Must ye needs lust after men instead of women ? Nay, but ye are folk who act senselessly.

http://www.sodomylaws.org/world/saudi_arabia/saudinews14.htm

Saudi Arabians Behead Three Accused Gays
Gay.com / PlanetOut.com Network, January 2, 2002

SUMMARY: Saudi Arabia officials executed three men on Tuesday for homosexual acts and molesting boys, according to the Saudi Press Agency.

Saudi Arabia officials executed three men on Tuesday for homosexual acts and molesting boys, according to the Saudi Press Agency.

The men were publicly beheaded in the city of Abha after being convicted in an Islamic court.

The charges against Ali bin Hattan bin Saad, Mohammad bin Suleiman bin Mohammad and Mohammad bin Khalil bin Abdullah included “engaging in the extreme obscenity and ugly acts of homosexuality, marry among themselves and molesting the young.”

At least 122 people were executed in Saudi Arabia during 2001, according to a Reuters report. Public beheading is a reportedly common means of execution in the Islamic kingdom for murderers, rapists, homosexuals and drug dealers.



44 posted on 02/08/2008 7:44:16 AM PST by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: indcons

When is this idiot going to change over to Islum?


45 posted on 02/08/2008 7:45:14 AM PST by RetiredArmy (A man alone. Without a party. Without a political voice. Bush destroyed conservatives.)
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To: Traianus

To the admin: for a loss of line i realize the article was posted TWICE..


46 posted on 02/08/2008 7:47:25 AM PST by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: george76

“Extremists”

implies that the mainstream religion of Islam doesn’t want to kill us...

Well, I have yet to hear ANY practicing muslim denounce jihad (war to impose Islam) or the subjugation of non-muslims in muslim controlled lands.


47 posted on 02/08/2008 7:49:59 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: GeronL

“The difference in how the leftists see Islam and Christianity is amazing.
They see Islam as a force of good or something and those christians who refuse to become suicide bombers are the bad guys

Want an explanation?

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Thought/hl1020.cfm

Basically, since muslims are a “brown” culture, and everything evil comes from Western White Patriarchal Culture, they have to side with them.


48 posted on 02/08/2008 7:54:06 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I heard him say it on the radio this morning.


49 posted on 02/08/2008 7:57:24 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: MrB

Moderate Muslim = temporarily out of bullets.


50 posted on 02/08/2008 8:12:50 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Muslims are only “peaceful” when they know they’ll be defeated if they actively engage in violence. They use peace treaties only in order to gather strength or get repreive before the next time they attack.

http://www.inalienable-rights.org/Islamic%20Peace%20Treaties_1.htm


51 posted on 02/08/2008 8:19:02 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

They stop fighting until they have time to re-load.


52 posted on 02/08/2008 8:22:19 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: indcons

Bye Bye!! England.....

say hello to Islamo-facism....

burning cars and riots....
it will never end....because brits are Gutless leftist
cry-babies!!!!

Kiss your country Good-bye


53 posted on 02/08/2008 8:40:49 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: GeronL
The difference in how the leftists see Islam and Christianity is amazing.

They see Islam as a force of good or something and those christians who refuse to become suicide bombers are the bad guys

Some prominent Nazis saw Islam the same way. It's not so surprising that modern-day leftists would hold similar views.

54 posted on 02/08/2008 9:33:47 AM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Republic of Texas
You're assuming that all of W.C., much less the UK, is tied to the CoE. The CoE's downfall is a symptom of a problem. The church is not a political party, branch of government, tax-deferred non-profit organization, land trust, or building.
55 posted on 02/08/2008 1:27:51 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: ichabod1
I heard him say it on the radio this morning. I heard him say it on the radio this morning.

I guess things are just going to get more and more bizarre...

56 posted on 02/08/2008 3:29:57 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (beaurocracy harbors malice)
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To: LtKerst

This is one man’s opinion.

There has already been a huge backlash from every side,right, left, centre, the Govt itself, even Muslims.

The British people may not be the people of 1940, but we are not gutless pussies quite yet.


57 posted on 02/08/2008 5:50:54 PM PST by the scotsman
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To: indcons
it occurs to me that in the parish I attend, which has something of a revolving door for priests, one of the recent ones has been peppering his homilies with allusions to Islam as if it's just another religion.

Seems like he and the Archbishop managed to get the same batch of kool-aid at the same time. How curious.

58 posted on 02/08/2008 8:36:19 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
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To: dr_who_2
Like you said, he is a symptom. The cancer of Islam has already spread too far in Britain. On or two more generations and they’ll be able to enact Sharia Law by legislation.
59 posted on 02/08/2008 9:17:25 PM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas
It seems once again, the West will have to provide the defense so that Europe can spend all of its money on a social agenda. Every few decades we are required to come to their defense since they refuse to provide for their own. This time will be different in that there will be two additional fronts in the form of Venezuela/ Cuba and (either directly or indirectly) China.

We have two naval fleets to counter the loss of the Panama Canal, but we have allowed additional fronts so we are behind in the game.

As China continues to drain our currency value and Europe acquiesces to the demands of Eurabia, the earliest salvos of WWIV have been executed.

Our leaders don’t even realize that the most dangerous trick the Russians have played in the last 20 years involves convincing us that Communism is dead.

Kasparov had it right when he said that Bush is playing checkers while the USSR, Ahmedinijad, China (don’t bother sending me emails about USSR doesn’t exist anymore) are playing chess.

60 posted on 02/08/2008 9:34:43 PM PST by willyd (Tickets, fines, fees, permits and inspections are synonyms for taxes)
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