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Zogby polls: Not just wrong, shockingly wrong
SignsonSanDiego.com ^ | 2/6/08 | Shane Goldmacher

Posted on 02/06/2008 5:12:18 PM PST by LdSentinal

On the Republican side, the final Zogby poll showed former Mass. Gov. Mitt Romney with a growing lead and 40 percent of the vote, followed by Sen. John McCain at 33 percent.

But once the votes started being tabulated Romney was actually substantially behind McCain, who appears on his way to nearly sweeping the state's 170 election delegates.

Current balloting results show McCain with 42.1 percent of the vote and Romney with 33.9 percent.

That, along with other wildly inaccurate pre-election polls, caused GOP strategist and Romney adviser Rob Stutzman to tell The Bee's Amy Chance on Tuesday night, "Kill the pollsters."

On the Democratic side, Zogby didn't fare much better, predicting a rout by Sen. Barack Obama of Sen. Hillary Clinton by 16 points.

There was a rout. But it was Clinton that won by 10 points, 52 percent to 42 percent, not Obama.

John Zogby is blaming sampling error. You think?

I find it interesting and satisfying that Survey USA got California's Dem race exactly race. It has robots poll voters. There's no intrinsic reason why robo-calls should be less accurate than human-call polls, especially given all the parlor guessing games about why people might lie to their interviewers. But other pollsters scorn them, and the media often go along -- without looking at the actual records of robo vs. regular.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; arab; arabism; poll; supertuesday; zogby
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To: LdSentinal

Pre-2000 zogby was pretty much the top dog, but he developed a terminal case of BDS and his polls have been garbage ever since.

I doubt that even the libs give him credit anymore...


21 posted on 02/06/2008 5:51:05 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Hmmm...since when is Taiwan an Arab country?

Arab countries can't make anything! The Arab world has a GDP one twentieth of the USA with about the same population. Remove oil and it gets ugly quickly. Apparently, Taiwan has no problem making Nazi sauce for Arab consumption.

22 posted on 02/06/2008 6:21:51 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: Mr. K
"We need some way to vote over the internet"

You're joking, right?
Please tell me you're joking!

(I didn't see any "/sarc" tag...)

23 posted on 02/06/2008 6:26:57 PM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: ricks_place

That’s a left-facing swastika — probably Buddhist. The Nasty’s symbol is right-facing (and tilted).


24 posted on 02/06/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
That’s a left-facing swastika — probably Buddhist. The Nasty’s symbol is right-facing (and tilted).

It was the best nazi sauce gif available! - lol

25 posted on 02/06/2008 6:34:12 PM PST by ricks_place
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Rakshasa


26 posted on 02/06/2008 7:17:03 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: LdSentinal
Zogby has a pathetic poll record ... he’s right about half the time, which isn’t any better than a calculated guess.
If Romney leads McPain by only three points it’s not enough in California ... numbers that close can be easily manipulated to favor the liberals favorite pubbie ... McCain.

59 posted on 02/03/2008 10:15:26 AM EST by BluH2o

It's all so predictable.

27 posted on 02/06/2008 7:27:30 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: LdSentinal
Maybe the polls misunderestimate the Klinton machine and the extent they will go to pull big numbers - any way they can.
28 posted on 02/06/2008 7:50:54 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: LdSentinal

Zogby is little more than an Arab with an AGENDA.....

His record for accuracy is no better than a monkey throwing feces at a multiple choice chart on the wall....


29 posted on 02/06/2008 9:26:18 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: LdSentinal

I can’t tell you how much I hate all these polls.


30 posted on 02/06/2008 9:28:03 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: LdSentinal

There were many Republicans who couldn’t vote because their affiliation was switched without their consent. Maybe Zogby was actually right but reality made a left turn.


31 posted on 02/07/2008 12:26:06 AM PST by TheThinker (Let lazy people starve. Socialism meant to help them enslaves the rest of us.)
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I can’t trust Zogby because he was always a racist Arabist.


32 posted on 09/25/2008 4:48:35 AM PDT by Righting
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