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We Have Found the Enemy--and the Enemy is Us
self | February 2, 2008 | exit82

Posted on 02/02/2008 1:05:56 PM PST by exit82

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To: exit82

Your words echoed my feelings almost exactly.

To feel better, I bought and put-up a new American flag today.

That made me feel better ............. FRegards


101 posted on 02/02/2008 8:54:23 PM PST by gonzo (Hold yer nose and vote - Hold yer nose and vote - Geez, I'm sick-of-this-sh!t ...)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

I’m just a little further in age along than you.

The America we remember is worth fighting for.

We’re the adults now. And we have a say.

Let’s say to our friends why it is so important not to select the ordained candidate.

If we are to enter a Socialist period, let it not happen unopposed by us.


102 posted on 02/02/2008 9:17:11 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: bvw

In school, we always had good manners. If we didn;t, our parents were sure to hear about it. Then we got punished.

My instructions when schoolbound were very clear-—I better not do anything to make the teacher contact home, because if that happened, my parents said they would side with the teacher.

It was tough to take on such a united front.


103 posted on 02/02/2008 9:22:52 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: joe.fralick

“I fear for my children and grandchildren. Whatever happens, we are headed for cruel times.”

Joe, on this thread and in my Freepmail, other Freepers are stating exactly what you are—they are concerned—very concerned— with the future of our country, and how it will negatively affect their kids and grandkids.

We were bequeathed something very special. Our parents have passed on, or are passing on, so we are the adults now.

It will be up to us to gather our courage and to fight back against what the elites have in mind for us and our posterity.

We can not look at their faces and say we can’t do it.

We can not look at ourselves in the mirror if we don’t fight.


104 posted on 02/02/2008 9:29:35 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: gonzo

Good for you, gonzo. I fly an American flag every day.

So does my 90 year old mother. Hers is the only flag on her street and for blocks around. She first put it out during the Vietnam War.

In my community, there are many who fly the US flag. It is a comforting sight to see.

That flag represents the best hope for us, our posterity, and the rest of the world. A lot of very good men died with that flag as their last conscious earthly vision.

It is one of the most beautiful things on this earth.

Long may it wave over a nation of free people.


105 posted on 02/02/2008 9:37:40 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: exit82

Awesome post which beautifully articulates the feelings of so many of us. Thank you.

What a shame that liberals march & riot, while conservatives work so they can afford to....If McCain wins the nomination I would love nothing better than to participate in a large demonstration at the Republican convention.

As it is, I may simply mail my pitchfork to it.


106 posted on 02/02/2008 10:15:40 PM PST by egginanest ( We don't know what we want, but we are ready to bite somebody to get it. -Will Rogers-)
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To: Golden Gate

Hunter was marginalized because he was a minor player in the big leagues.


107 posted on 02/02/2008 10:18:12 PM PST by Martins kid
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To: exit82
"The perfect storm of American politics is converging in a bid to elect one of three horrible candidates, McCain, Obama, or Clinton, to be our next President."

There is a second political perfect storm brewing. The elite establishment, Democrat and Republican alike, are working together fervently, like close friends, to hold it at bay until after the November elections. It is this second storm they fear, for it is this second storm that would pit the now presumed candidates against the American people.

That second perfect political storm is economic. The timing, scope, and near ideal harmony between Democrats and Republicans on passing a economic stimulus package is less about saving the nation from a recession, and more about saving the two political parties. The deeper the recession, the greater the threat posed the two parties.

If the recession comes swiftly, and runs deep with large layoffs, Americans will do exactly as they have in the worst economic times of our nation, and peoples everywhere in history faced with such times. They will first see the "outsiders" as a cause. The outsiders will be immigrants, and among these, the illegal immigrants will be seen as the most detestable.

If the proposed economic stimulus package does not hold the second storm at bay, and if indeed, the Democratic and Republican candidates are as you have mentioned, the American people will rail against both parties as those presumed candidates from both parties hold pro-amnesty positions for illegal aliens.

Time looms short for the two parties to implement an economic stimulus package that might show signs of an economic upswing before the November elections. If they fail, Americans will extract a heavy toll and illegal aliens will be pushed from our lands. And the deeper the hardships of a recession, the faster and harder Americans will push to see the illegal aliens gone, along with their supporters.
108 posted on 02/02/2008 10:29:00 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: exit82
For everyone's further reading, at the link below is a listing of some of McCain's less noble incidents, including a number about his volcanic temper. The list was found through the web site: http://www.stopjohnmccain.com.

John McCain Off The Hook: A Loose Cannon For President? | Stuck On Stupid:

Address: http://stuckon-stupid.com/2008/01/29/john-mccain-off-the-hook-a-loose-cannon-for-president/ Changed:8:31 AM on Sunday, February 3, 2008

109 posted on 02/03/2008 5:54:50 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

John McCain Off The Hook: A Loose Cannon For President? | Stuck On Stupid
Address:http://stuckon-stupid.com/2008/01/29/john-mccain-off-the-hook-a-loose-cannon-for-president/ Changed:8:31 AM on Sunday, February 3, 2008


110 posted on 02/03/2008 5:56:28 AM PST by Truth29
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To: exit82

Well said - great post. I feel the same, although I didn’t arrive until 1972 and the cultural erosion was well under way; the incense, patchouli & other herbal essences were thick in my home growing up.


111 posted on 02/03/2008 8:04:56 AM PST by MonicaG (Help Wanted: Conservative leadership '08)
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To: egginanest

“As it is, I may simply mail my pitchfork to it.”

Maybe we can get a group rate from the USPS ;).


112 posted on 02/03/2008 12:58:07 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: backtothestreets

You have an interesting thesis about the economy being the second wave brewing out there.

What we have today is not what has classically termed a recession or a depression requiring an immediate infusion of $ 150 billion in cash to the citizenry.

It’s a rather blatant attempt for incumbents to claim they “did something” to save the evonmoy for their re-election campaigns this fall.

I don’t see how $ 150 billion is going to amount to anything other than a blip on the economy’s radar screen.

But the way this is being greenlighted with no holds barred makes one wonder what is really going on.


113 posted on 02/03/2008 1:02:31 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: Truth29

Interesting stuff on your link—good to know that the designated nominee is a stable, well speaking, even keeled man——NOT!


114 posted on 02/03/2008 1:05:45 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: MonicaG

Monica, I look at 1992 as some kind of turning point in America.

When Bill CLinton ascended to the Presidency, the feebleness of George H. W. Bush’s campaign, the rise of Ross Perot and his subsequent flameout and then reinsertion in the campaign, something wildly wrong went on that year.

After 1992 the erosion intensified and the pace quickened noticeably.


115 posted on 02/03/2008 1:08:46 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: exit82
"But the way this is being greenlighted with no holds barred makes one wonder what is really going on."

Yeah, the timing and chumminess between the White House and Congress on this strikes me extraordinarily odd. You are correct that what we are experiencing is not what has been classically termed a recession or depression. That being the case, it leaves me believing the politicians are not reacting to current events, but possible future events, and the November elections top the card.

I may be way off track in my forecast, but I am positive about the present climate of camaraderie I am seeing between the Democrats and Republicans on economic matters. I am positive because the Democrats had the most to gain if the economy tanked during an election year. The Democrats were positioned to make huge gains if a deep recession or depression occurred.

If this assertion is true, then the efforts by Democrats and Republicans is not about party, but about some issue(s) they are quietly in agreement on. I believe the issue is amnesty for illegal aliens, and the two parties acting together to protect pro-amnesty politicians, and get a pro-amnesty candidate elected as president.

The elections of 2006 introduced a new element to the Democratic Party I believe the pro-amnesty forces want to nip in the bud. Those elections sent some strong Democratic opponents of illegal aliens to Washington, D.C. That may seem a minor blip on the radar screen, but that small blip played a crucial role in derailing amnesty last summer. That small blip could grow extensively if the economy sours. Huge Democratic gains could add to the number of opponents to amnesty.

Beyond economic factors such as layoffs that would come into play if the economy soured is one factor which Americans, be they Democrat or Republican, would not tolerate. Rising crime makes a great many citizens conservative quickly. Crime rises when economic calamity comes. The people the first turn to crime, and crime of the most physical sort to meet financial hardships are those on the lowest rungs of the economic ladder. Presently, the people on the lowest rung of that ladder are the illegal aliens.

If economic difficulties are allowed to worsen, crime will increase. Crime by illegal aliens would tear the bonds of party affiliation of citizens and make of them Americans first and foremost.

I have lived through much worse economic times in our nation than what the federal government is now reacting to. Never in those times did the federal government react as it is presently. It appears they are afraid of something, and trying desperately to forestall it until after the November elections.

Back to the proposed economic stimulus packages, the latest Senate version has included two segments of society that could easily sway elections. Senior citizens receiving Social Security are one segment. This is not surprising when one considers this age group is more likely to go to the polls. The other segment is the unemployed which could turn on incumbents in an instant if their personal well being worsens.

I've not looked yet, but I am curious how many pro-amnesty US Senators are up for reelection this year. Of interest too are how many Senate opponents of amnesty face a threat of losing their seats. We, me included, are so focused on the presidential primaries that we have yet to look at the bigger picture. The US Senate, where amnesty was derailed is the crucial part of that bigger picture. A pro-amnesty president can accomplish nothing without a pro-amnesty Senate. This we know.

I'll end by saying something bigger than an economic downturn is rumbling off the political coast. The two political parties controlling the government see it in the cards, and they are moving to stack the deck right now.
116 posted on 02/03/2008 2:24:31 PM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: exit82

It’s astonishing how incredibly successful the media is at cultural brainwashing. I grew up without television (hippy dad afraid of radiation.) and don’t watch as an adult, so it’s intense when I do. Just watched the Super Bowl and the condescending adverts for the gaming propositions really assumed a worldview that could only be acquired by letting the TV do the thinking for you. That if the cause is noble enough (i.e. “the children”), it is a righteous thing to redistribute the wealth of someone other than yourself.


117 posted on 02/03/2008 8:20:12 PM PST by MonicaG (Help Wanted: Conservative leadership '08)
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To: backtothestreets

I want to thank you for a really cogent analysis about the political ramifications of this present “economic crisis”, and how amnesty for illegals may be an important component influencing the whole debate.

That is a very unique and unusual connecting of the dots. It resounds within me that there is a lot of sense to it, because as we know, nothing in DC is ever what it seems.

Yes, there has to be something more. A Congress that has been at each other’s throats for the last 7 years suddenly having a Kumbaya moment is cause for suspicion of the highest order.

We absolutely have to keep an eye of what is happening in the other races. The need to link a pro-amnesty President, like John McCain, to a pro-Amnesty Senate is a good reason why McQueeg is being foisted upon us, to the detriment of the Republican Party.

When things don’t make sense, there is a good reason.

Again, thank you for your very cogent analysis and excellent observations.


118 posted on 02/03/2008 8:20:34 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: MonicaG

Perhaps your upraising has given you a unique vantage point with which to observe the culture.

The last time our culture was so involved in the non-essentials was just before Sept. 2001. It seemed our culture was majoring on the minors to the nth degree, and the vacuousness of our entertainment, the PC culture, and the lack of morality in the popular culture had reached a new zenith.

Then we got a wake up call.

Kepp that unique vantage point. Much of what our society thinks is important is fluff. You are blessed to be able to see it so clearly.


119 posted on 02/03/2008 8:25:34 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: OPS4
Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more significant than her attempt to whitewash her personal transformation from Goldwater Girl to Marxist.

Well, her scandals and cover-ups are so blatant and so criminal that sometimes it's difficult to decide which is most significant. From this perspective, her role in the murder of Vincent Foster (her longtime law partner and reputed former paramour) ranks as number one. There is no crime more significant than murder!

120 posted on 02/04/2008 8:01:20 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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