Posted on 02/02/2008 7:29:44 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy
I asked the question in reference to John Adams’ quote you posted. Since we no longer have a moral and religious people, would even the Founding Fathers’ vision be appropriate?
We have moved in a direction they feared, away from the republic to a mobocracy, and it’s showing. But what would Adams say is the best government for an amoral people?
Get a job (other than military) working for the government, any government. He can roll in at 9:00 AM, scratch his ass all day, pick lint from his belly button and leave promptly at 5:30, secure in the knowledge that no matter how much he FU's, he'll be on the gravy train for life and enjoy a fat pension compliments of the sheeple of the USA when he retires.
P.S. If he really wants to advance his government career oppurtunities, as soon as possible he should change his sex, race (however possible) and take his pet gerbil for a life-partner.
Yes, my mistake, and yes, a flaming lib might be easier to stop, actually, than a Trojan Souter.
“....there is no difference between Obama, Clinton, and McCain! Absolutely None!”
Never a truer statement has been said!
The more I observe the slate we’ve been given to choose from, the more I think that this election is a sham and a foregone conclusion...perhaps not re: the person, per se, but the ideologies are identical. We have been given no choice but have been told our votes make a difference in the direction that this country will be led. They won’t.
Its like we’re being herded into a huge cattle shute - the Dems nudge us from the left, the pseudo-Dems from the right, and the outcome will be the same...get as much meat off our bones as possible. Although I will grant that neither side wants to get us blown up, but they may be surprised at the duplicity of, not only our enemies but their own handlers.
The only way our votes make a difference is in local and state governments and sometimes we’re duped even at that level.
Sorry about the rant, but that’s how I feel and I’m not intellectual enough to make it sound compelling. Our only hope is that God will, in fact, have the final word.
And really, I’m not a negative person...there is a LOT that’s good and wonderful about life and people and friends and family. I just grieve at the direction I see our country going and don’t know how to stem the tide other than prayer and speaking the truth. Doesn’t mean I won’t vote, but all I can do is make a statement with a write-in.
Yes, the presumption that even candidates we supported who endorse McCain will magically “bring us over” is silly. I can’t vote for McCain-—I don’t think either Clinton or Obama would change the condition of the troops much at all-—and the supreme court justices, as someone pointed out above, may actually be easier to spot and stop with a Clinton or Obama presidency than with a McCain presidency. (Cause the type of people we will get sent up will be nearly identical).
It's sad--but I'd like to know why and when we decided as a nation to make government jobs higher paying (when benefits are included) than those in the private sector. How long will the taxpayers in the private sector put up with that?
It's Time for "Duncan Hunter, - Take Two!" "It's DUNCAN Time!"
The information I have is that Duncan Hunter's name is on the ballot in all counties in California. - What a "Golden" Opportunity for California Republicans who have not yet thrown their vote away trying to resolve the GOP's liberal / moderate mess.
California Congressman Duncan Hunter
for later.
Hunter endorsed Huckabee.
‘nuff said.
I agree that the problem with McCain is not so much the positions that he took as the reason he took the positions. McCain has acted as a fifth column inside the Republican party, ever since his defeat in 2000, maybe before his defeat.
His actions seem vindictive and self aggrandizing.
As Thomas Sowell said, Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too. Hero status doesn’t last forever if more recent actions don’t measure up to the past.
Excellent observations, all; I agree with each of them.
You might start with the fact that Bush is too far to the right to win a national election again, in the current political climate.
Then you might look at the fact that McCain beats Hillary by 8 points, and Obama by 6, in recent likely voter polls. Mitt loses by 15 and 20 respectively.
Nor are those results surprising, since Mitt is clearly to Bush's right and McCain is clearly to his left. The distance between them spans at least 20% of the electorate and maybe as much as 30%. Who don't trust the left on the war of basic patriotism, but haven't been convinced of conservative domestic positions since the Gingrich era.
Half the public voted for Al Gore - when we didn't have a long drawn out unpopular war around our necks, as a party.
Pretending the whole country is 10-20 points of the right of Bush, which is where it would have to be for Mitt to be positioned where the median voter is, is just hopelessly delusional.
We aren't a huge natural majority, folks. Yes we should try to change that. Yes if we had more policy successes, we might pull the country 10% or so our way.
The difference between the public's opinion of Ford in 1976 and of Reagan in 1984 - defeat of a centrist Republican vs. landslide of a conservative one - was only 10% of voters changing their actual votes, and perhaps 20-30% changing their preferred philosophy within the right.
We face a shift at least that big in the other direction since the Gingrich revolution.
Dole was a moderate and he got utterly creamed. Bush ran far to his left and barely got half. He faced the most liberal nominee of modern times, on a platform of defeatism and hostility to basic patriotism, and barely pulled it out by a couple of points. Since then the war has dragged on and he has ripped his own party in half over immigration. And you expect us to *gain* votes by moving 20-30 points *right* of where we barely held, last time?
What are you people smoking?
It is perfectly sensible to dislike where the party is, or where the country is headed. But to be shocked or surprised by it, not to understand it, not to see why McCain is winning, you have to be so arrogant your brains have fallen out.
Duncan Hunter...
W@ith enough votes Duncan could be part of a brokered convention...
There has to be at least three candidates in a brokered convention...
I dont know what FRed is doing...
But Duncan would easily get most of the conservatives behind him
Duncan has all three of those THREE LEGS OF THE STOOL
He’s more than palatable...
No having to slander and abuse conservatives in order to make them submit and drink the poison ...
Duncan is just good clean fun conservative in every area..
:)
President Duncan Hunter
Who for VP ???
Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn ?????
If he is a one man trap, why doesn't everyone agree with you? Why didn't Thompson win the nomination in a landslide?
Can anybody here count, or is it all just supposedly to be about who is truer bluer rightward? Can you grok the bare idea of "too far right to be accepted by the average voter, right this minute"?
My answer in reply to those who ask me why is simple; I do visit family there but I have five reasons for why I can't live in the south - heat, humidity, bugs, snakes, and alligators. I've felt the tremor of earthquakes about 4 or 5 times but I've never seen a 'funnel' cloud and we don't have hurricanes here either.
We do have bears, wolves, and moose wandering through the neighborhood occasionally but I don't have to worry about them laying in the grass at the edge of my property line.
Thank you,
May I add #7: George Soros as a regular visitor to the WH.
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