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Judges: 'Gay' Exposure OK for Kindergartners
World Net Daily ^ | 02/01/2008 | RTO

Posted on 02/01/2008 7:06:42 PM PST by RTO

In a case that could wind up in the U.S. Supreme Court, an appeals panel upheld dismissal of a lawsuit by Massachusetts parents seeking to prevent discussion of homosexual families in their children's elementary school classrooms.

The 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals yesterday agreed with a judge's decision last year that a school can expose children to contrary ideas without violating their parents' rights to exercise religious beliefs.

Lynch reasoned that schools must accept the Massachusetts high court's groundbreaking 2003 decision ruling "that the state constitution mandates the recognition of same-sex marriage."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: education; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; massachusetts; perversion
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To: 13Sisters76

Excellent point!


141 posted on 02/02/2008 8:26:45 AM PST by tpanther
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To: AD from SpringBay

I lived in Massachusetts in the late 70s-early 80s. I LOVED Boston. I can’t imagine how it would be to live there again. So sad to see that the Dems have corrupted it even further than the Duke had done.


142 posted on 02/02/2008 8:59:58 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: George from New England

In Westfield, MA, at a “Catholic” High School... Saint Mary’s... A “nun” was teaching her charges Evolution, among other teachings contrary to Catholic orthodoxy. At the Rectory’s “Parish council library” I discovered, among other tomes, a book that openly promoted environmental pantheism. I could cite many more such cases.

These aberrations are the result of the Modernist attack on the Church... “The smoke of Satan has entered the Church” said Pope John Paul II... and he should know, since he did more to advance the liberal cause of false “ecumenism”... even more so than Pope Paul VI, whom opened the gates wide to the heretical onslaught that followed the Second Vatican Council.

Most Traditional Catholics I know, home school their children... and most of these families have at least 4 or 5 children... some as many as twelve!


143 posted on 02/02/2008 1:07:44 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“...If public schools suffered a perceptible drop in swag (govt funds to be skimmed), govt would invent Homeschool Commissions, Truancy Tribunals, Alternate Schooling Cooperatives, Student Health Councils, etc., and place them in every district...”

That would constitute fascism. I ask the question all are timid to raise: Does force against a government that would abuse its powers so grossly to compromise the morals of our children constitute an act of treason, or an obligation of Constitutional duty?

Government bodies of divers stripe swiftly move to redefine the Second Amendment through activist court fiat and legislative tyranny. They know... and they are terrified. The prospect that men of decency, if there be such long suffering individuals left standing this day, may rise up against the propagators of the New World Order and smite them where they gather to plan our demise, is keenly on their minds.

I hope those whom love this country are stocking arms, ammo, food and water, because the time is fast approaching, and perhaps already here, when we need recourse to the FINAL ‘check and balance’ on government power.

Please do not lecture of our recourse through the political process... That ‘check and balance’ was destroyed and made irrelevant long ago.


144 posted on 02/02/2008 1:38:42 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: philetus

That is a question I never thought to consider. But I would be grossly surprised if such were the case. How could they keep their position if such were revealed? I do not think even the MA legislature would give a pass on such an offense against the public good. Chapter 98 of the MA State Constitution would be raised for certain (’Bill of Address’ to remove a judge).


145 posted on 02/02/2008 1:45:26 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: RTO

You know how it goes. “Mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves...” Also known as Better The Devil You Know.
People will put up with most anything rather than confront chaos. Fascism? What’s fascism compared to the horrors of chaos?
For that matter, what’s new about fascism, or ingenious taxation schemes, or government intrusion into every conceivable nook and cranny of our lives?
Yeah, they’ll put up with it. They’ll pour money into homeschooling co-ops and even individual households, and you’ll take the money and the rules that go with it. Among the first ten rules...
Parents must be licensed to homeschool.
Homeschools must pass safety inspections.
No firearms in home schools.


146 posted on 02/02/2008 2:14:04 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: RTO

I do not think even the MA legislature would give a pass on such an offense against the public good.

“Massachusetts judges and juries released 37 of 60 convicted sex offenders between July 2006 and June 2007 over the objections of prosecutors who said they were too dangerous to set free...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963949/posts


147 posted on 02/02/2008 3:07:42 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: RTO
Sell the house. Go to another state with a good school and live in a community that still values family. Everyone should leave the entire state.

I don’t get this filth. Homosexuals are only 2% of the population and they act like everyone in America is gay. Sick.

148 posted on 02/02/2008 3:12:47 PM PST by SQUID
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To: RTO
agreed with a judge's decision last year that a school can expose children to contrary ideas without violating their parents' rights to exercise religious beliefs.

"Contrary" ideas? How about bestiality or pedophilic sex? Without legislating arbitrarily from the bench, how does a judge draw the line between "contrary ideas" and pornography?

149 posted on 02/02/2008 3:17:45 PM PST by montag813
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To: RTO
You got that right. Mitt's advocacy of the homosexual agenda in Massachusetts ultimately has contributed to introduction of homosexual propaganda in the public schools in that state...even before he left the governor's mansion.

150 posted on 02/02/2008 3:20:35 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: catroina54

And the right to bear arms...lets not forget about that one.


151 posted on 02/02/2008 5:11:17 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe
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To: RTO

I don’t blame you for leaving. That would have been the last straw for me too.


152 posted on 02/02/2008 7:53:34 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: RTO

This is another reason to home school. The system doesn’t work. It is time to dismantle it.


153 posted on 02/02/2008 9:33:50 PM PST by Maelstorm ("Christ didn’t tell us to go to the government...He told us to do it." Fred Thompson)
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To: RTO
"Public schools," wrote Judge Sandra L. Lynch, "are not obliged to shield individual students from ideas which potentially are religiously offensive,

Judge Sandra L. Lynch - Appointed 1995 by President Clinton

As WND reported in 2006, U.S. District Judge Mark L. Wolf dismissed the civil rights lawsuit by David and Tonia Parker of Lexington, concluding there is an obligation for public schools to teach young children to accept and endorse homosexuality.

U.S. District Judge Mark L. Wolf - Appointed 1985 by President Reagan

154 posted on 02/02/2008 9:41:55 PM PST by airborne (It's way past time for a revolution!)
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To: wintertime

Ookkay. Maybe you have a point in some of that. However, how about single parents? How are some of them supposed to afford that? There are many single parents that are hard working. How are they supposed to afford it? If they stay home, (to homeschool)how do they support their families? Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to see people be able to stay home to homeschool, or put kids in private school. But not every one can do it.

If they stay home to homeschool, how do they support themselves and their families? They would have to get help from somewhere. If they get it from the government, some people would crab and say they need to get to work, and stop living off the taxpayers. If they go out to work, who homeschools the kids? How do they afford private schools if they don’t work? I see your point about families with 2 parents in the house, but what about the ones with only one parent?

I’d like to see a world where most people have a marriage partner in the house, or two adults. However, in reality, there are several in a position where they are raising children almost alone. Do you have any practical suggestions for these families? Or are you saying that everyone should just do what you think they should do? A one-size-fits-all kind of thing? People have things happen that are not forseen. Parents die, parents leave, parents get sick. Then the other parents get left alone. What do they do about their kids education? Can you tell me?


155 posted on 02/02/2008 9:53:10 PM PST by dsutah
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To: big'ol_freeper

You got that right, indeed. I lived there under RINO Romney’s governorship, which was a replay of RINO Swift, which was a replay of RINO Celucci, which was a replay of RINO Weld...

I was in the MA GOP... I went to the “leadership” meetings, the Lincoln Breakfasts, the Campaign Rallies, the Election night dinners, the Saint Patrick’s Parade Brunches... Trying to rub elbows with the GOP big shots, wanting to understand MA political machinery.

What I discovered is most, not all, but most of the operatives were spineless RINOs... “Dr. Fiscal Conservative / Mr. Social Liberal” schizophrenia was epidemic in Massachusetts politics. The good-ole-boy, country club Republican Party played conservative voters for useful idiots.

Homosexual marriage was a “touchy issue” ... so stated Senator Mike Knapic when I questioned him about his vote in the upcoming referendum brawl on the MA Statehouse floor. Senator Knapic played a leading role in squashing the previous DOMA referendum statehouse vote the previous year, when the Massachusetts legislature could have short-circuited the court’s jurisdiction. Mr “I’m one of the few pro-life Republicans, so don’t give me a hard time” was the typical blow-back a conservative received if he had the temerity to demand the RINO keep his campaign promises. And I campaigned for both these guys, that is what really frosts my ass... I fell for their RINO BS, hook line and sinker.

Both State Senator Knapic and his sidekick State Rep Don Humason were fence sitters on the “Gay Marriage” issue. And of course there was that snot-nosed GOP charlatan Brian Lees... what a slimy two-faced slug he turned out to be. He was pivotal in ram-rodding homosexual “marriage” through the Republican minority, despite the objections of some principled freshmen colleagues.

Conservatives were told to overlook little details of treachery and support GOP candidates. That is when I converted to an “undeclared” voter. I did not leave the GOP, it left me. More likely was that the MA GOP was never anything more than a liberal charade from the beginning.


156 posted on 02/02/2008 11:52:30 PM PST by RTO (What will you do without freedom?)
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To: dsutah
I am not saying that absolutely every family can afford to home or privately school their school. Obviously there are exceptions.

However,,,if every person, who could privately or home school their children, did do this, and got off the government school welfare teat, then charity and scholarships could take care of the rest.

By the way, there are many single parents that can afford to use private schools. If they were able to afford babysitting when their children were pre-schoolers, then they can afford the cost of tuition in most church schools. They cost of babysitting is about the same as babysitting in my state.

And,,,Many single parents homeschool while holding down full-time jobs. Homeschooling is very very efficient in terms of time. My homeschooling children rarely spent more than 2 hours a day in formal instruction. The children of single parents homeschool before and after work and on the weekends. Many have made arrangements with homeschool cooperatives.

However,,,In my county there are no private schools. None!

Why?

Answer: Government schools are price-fixed monopoly that is giving away a service for free. This discourages the development of private schools that must charge a fee to cover costs.

Our county has plenty of other services that are not free. We have 2 large supermarkets. A super-Wall Mart is coming within the years. We have more than enough physicians, too many dentists, two hardware stores, several banks, more than one dry cleaner, more than one furniture store, several clothing stores,,etc.

We have a selection of services because government is not giving these products away for free. If the government did start giving away free food, furniture, dry cleaning, clothing, it wouldn’t be long before middle class families couldn’t live without the government food, clothing, housing, and dry cleaning.

157 posted on 02/03/2008 5:24:47 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

it was actually Romney which tried to stoip queer marriage, ot was Romney who enacted a 1913 law which stopped queers coming to the state to get married

It was the new Gov deval patrick which came in and bribed the legilature to stop the poeple of that state voting and it was the same Gov which made the state a safe sanctuary for illegals thus overturning Romneys policy of the police arresting them

I was living in Massachusetts at the time of this fiasco, we have now left that state as I don’t want my kids going to a school there and being told it’s alright for my boys to be girls, or it;s alright for my boy to have sex with another boy

the people in charge of that state are corrupted, i.e. the pribery of the legilature to stop the people voting, the voter suppression.

I would hope every republoican got out of that state and eithe rm oved to new hampshire where they could secure the state for republicans or move to places like VA,NC,SC,FL,

There must be over half a million republicans in Ma so if every one moved then the state would be in crisis, not that it’s far off anyway since the new Gov has come in


158 posted on 02/03/2008 6:43:42 AM PST by manc
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To: ichabod1

“Sometimes I think the rapture has already happened and we were left behind.”

You very well could be right!


159 posted on 02/03/2008 6:45:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: umgud

EXACTLY

I’m not religious but find homosexuality disgusting as do many of the ppoeple I know. They too are not religious

two men poking each other is not normal or natural for if nature intended the same sex to have sex then those two would be able to reproduce, They cannot.

It is a sexual perversion same if a person likes being tied up, hit etc

To say this is natural is just flat out wrong and it is those poeple who need mental help as it is those people who are confused on what nature intended.

Congrats on your kids I took my family out of the state and wish every family who finds this disgusting move to.
The final peice for me was the homo marriage and then I find that the legilature bribed by kennedy, the Gov deval patrick pelosi did voter suppression

over half a million people moving out would cripple the state and then they the liberals and fanatics could never use the state as their torch.


160 posted on 02/03/2008 6:50:07 AM PST by manc
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