Posted on 02/01/2008 9:33:23 AM PST by FR_addict
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
Ted Sampley, a Vietnam Veteran and former Green Beret, issued a CHALLENGE to John McCain "If you can show us that the information presented in our mailer is untruthful . . . we will Stand Down" This CHALLENGE was issued during an interview with INSIDE EDITION on January 17, 2008.
John, family members of Vietnam POW/MIA(s) have been waiting for more then 14 years for you to have the courage to face them eye to eye in front of the American Public - Here is your opportunity for some "STRAIGHT TALK." Stop hiding behind your fabricated "War Hero" persona. You know we can prove your collaborations with declassified government documents . . . It is time for the American people to get to know the REAL John McCain - the John McCain that the POW/MIA families witnessed during the 1991-93 US Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs .
Bring It On John! HERE IS OUR NUMBER 252-527-0442
Is it legitimate?
just watch the videos
yes it does look legit - Sampley is the same guy with Vietnam Vets against Kerry
Yes, I believe it all had to do with a brother-in-law’s extensive business interests in Vietnam.
I think this will backfire. The guy was in the Hanoi Hilton for Pete’s sake. I don’t think his heroism is questionable. There are plenty of questions about his conservatism to take up the slack.
“Stop hiding behind your fabricated “War Hero” persona”
I don’t think McCain has called himself a war hero. He was a pilot that got shot down and became a POW that tried to follow the code of conduct. Other people ramp up the war hero persona, usually those that support him.
In essence, without looking at a bunch of mpegs and testimoney, what DID the 1991-93 testimony reveal?
Is there a generic ‘VietNam vets against...’ group, that just fills in the blanks as it sees fit?
Can we assume he really meant,
"You know we can use declassified government documents to prove your collaborations?"
About time somebody said something cuz Romney and Huckabee can’t chastise McCain, he served in the war remember? He also did it for patriotism not for profit...profit bad! Very very bad!
JUST TEN of the 100s of REASONS
NOT TO SUPPORT MCCAIN
(1) McCain gave military secrets to the Viet Cong. Which he admitted to in his own book.
(2) McCain made radio announcements for the Viet Cong telling American sailors and soldiers not to fight and to give up.
(3) McCain cheated on his wife with more than one woman and admitted it.
(4) McCain left his wife when she was sickly and needed him most.
(5)McCain repeatedly mistreated the POW-MIAs’ wives and families and activists on many occasions.
(6) McCain did all he could to normalize US-VIET NAM Relations in opposition to most US veterans groups.
(7) McCain signed that death warrant for any and all living US POW-MIAs in VIET NAM by normalizing relations.
(8) McCain was heavily involved in the Keating 5.
(9) McCain did nothing about Clinton’s Treason of selling NUKES to the Chinese for ten million in illegal Communist Chinese Campaign money... Even though he was in the unique position to do something about it as the Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee.
(10) McCain’s so-called “Campaign Finance Reform” Bill is totally unconstitutional and would stop free speech..... even religious speech!
Sampley isn't questioning his heroism; he's telling him not to use it as a shield. What he's questioning is McCain's actions regarding POW/MIA issues while in the Senate.
The guy was in the Hanoi Hilton for Petes sake.
which doesn’t give a guy a pass on being scrutinized. But I challenge anyone that has not been incarcerated and tortured like McCain, to question his loyalty due to the fact he decided to stay a few more years even though he had the opportunity just because his dad was an admiral running the show. I would say he was ‘patriotic’ as much as a POW can be in those circumstances, as was others, whose arms and legs were tied behind their backs for significant periods of time.
Many of these negative comments are utterly pathetic but, hey, free speech, baby.
I don't want McCain to be President because of the Keating 5, because of his opposition to tax cuts, because of McCain-Feingold, because of his age, because of his lack of leadership experience, because of his noted thin skin, because of his blowing off of Conservatives just to be considered "cool" by the Washington elites, etc.
Yes, and that is where the heroic element comes into play.
I’m another VietNam vet who will not support McLame but my dislike for McLame has nothing to do with his war record.
McLame is a RINO, has not supported our men and women in uniform today, is one of the “gang of 14” who betrayed President Bush and ambushed legislation for fighting terrorism, etc, etc.
McLame is not a conservative. In fact as previously mentioned as a running mate for Hillary, does not have many redeeming political values, IMHO.
Doc Wheeler says that the ruskies and the CIA have the documents that prove Mccain collaborated and was rewarded with a hotel suite and two “comfort” women.
For cripes sakes ... McCain is a survivor, not a hero.
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