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Let's Closely Examine McCain's Record
Human Events ^ | 2/1/2008 | Chris Field

Posted on 02/01/2008 6:14:27 AM PST by callisto

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To: devolve; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo
One of devolve's collection;

DESPERADO

101 posted on 02/02/2008 12:09:32 PM PST by potlatch ("Kindness is more important than wisdom, the recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom" - Rubin)
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To: BibChr

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102 posted on 02/02/2008 12:10:47 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: callisto
There's only one "positive" thing I can say about McCain's record: It's no worse than Romney's.

103 posted on 02/02/2008 12:13:14 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: big'ol_freeper; All
McCainiac is asking for divine intevention now to win the nomination. I guess he's realized he may need it now after going against Conservatives and others in the Repub Party for so long now.

McCain: Super Tuesday may end the GOP race

Republican John McCain said Friday that Super Tuesday could mark the finish line of his party’s presidential race this year.

“Do I think the race will be over on Tuesday? Not often do I ask for divine intercession, but I have asked for that. Yes,” he told reporters on a campaign flight to Chicago.

104 posted on 02/02/2008 12:50:00 PM PST by callisto
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To: Philly Nomad
Don't distort Reagan's record. McCain is NO Ronald Reagan.

educate yourself

Reagan Challenged His Party from the Right. McCain Challenges His Party from the Left (Mark Levin)

105 posted on 02/02/2008 1:05:13 PM PST by paltz
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To: MeekOneGOP; devolve

Bump for what you said Meek.


106 posted on 02/02/2008 1:20:52 PM PST by potlatch ("Kindness is more important than wisdom, the recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom" - Rubin)
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To: paltz

Yeah, I noticed not one word about taxes, and how the “border security was never enforced.” Which we should note, it’s the president’s job to enforce the laws.

But keep on dreaming about a Ronald Reagan that never existed.


107 posted on 02/02/2008 2:47:07 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: Philly Nomad
Let me be more specific, rather than spar in generalities. Reagan would never have used the phrase "manage for profit" as a zinger to put down a Republican opponent. Reagan believed in managing for profit because he believed in free enterprise. That doesn't mean he didn't agree to certain tax increases (after fighting for and winning the most massive tax cuts in modern American history), which were incidentally to be accompanied by even greater spending cuts. McCain believes the oil companies are evil, and said it during one of the debates. Among his first acts as president, Reagan decontrolled the prices of natural gas and crude oil with the stroke of his pen because, as he understood, profit funds research and exploration. Reagan had a respect for and comprehension of private property rights and markets that McCain does not. There never would have been a Reagan-Lieberman bill, in which the federal government's power over the private sector would have trumped the New Deal.

And Reagan never treated any constituent like this when asked about immigration policy:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1073039/dont_ask_mccain/

108 posted on 02/02/2008 3:59:57 PM PST by paltz
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To: callisto
McCain’s focus this campaign has been his purported strength on national security and the War on Terror. Though he has been a faithful supporter of the troops and was one of the original proponents of the troop surge that has led to major success in Iraq, McCain’s positions on the detention and interrogation of known and suspected terrorists and unlawful combatants is, at best, troubling.

I have always given McCain credit for supporting the surge. He refers to it frequently. I also give credit to General Shinseki who called for more troops. No one, to my knowledge, have denied McCain or Shinseki credit; all say they were right.

However, I do have a few questions on the specifics. Unfortunately, I must digress first.

General Petreus had a counterinsurgency strategy that called for more troops, raising troop levels from about 130,000 to about 160,000. President Bush supported the surge. Democrats opposed. The surge took place and has been a great success. Real credit goes to General Petreus and President Bush.

A couple of days ago I tried to look up Shinseki’s position. The quote, much quoted, was that we would need several hundreds of thousands of troops in Iraq. How many hundreds of thousands? As far as I can tell, no one knows! Some in the press said two hundred thousand, without explanation. A detailed article in the American Thinker said three hundred thousand beyond those already in the region of about two hundred thousand, or five hundred thousand total. We are getting the job done with one hundred sixty thousand. Yes, it does seem we did not have enough. But perhaps McCain and Shinseki wanted too many. I believe in giving people their due, plus a little more. But before I conclude that McCain and Shinseki were entirely right, and Rumsfeld was entirely wrong, I would want to know more.
109 posted on 02/02/2008 4:25:23 PM PST by ChessExpert (This enemy is more dangerous than any threat we faced in the 20th century, LTG Sanchez.)
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To: paltz

You are just making excuse for Reagan when his actions don’t live up to your fantasy Reagan.

It’s simple, you don’t like McCain because he isn’t conservative enough, but because he stood up to Bush, he stood up to the Big Spenders in the GOP, he stood up the the businessmen on immigration. You don’t want a leader, you want somebody to ready you bedtime stories.


110 posted on 02/02/2008 5:03:59 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: ChessExpert
But before I conclude that McCain and Shinseki were entirely right, and Rumsfeld was entirely wrong, I would want to know more.

The media only hears what they're prepared to hear. It's a shame there aren't more people like you who are willing to learn the truth before jumping to conclusions. I would take the time to research some information for you but am in the middle of some heavy research at the moment. Thanks for your input!
111 posted on 02/02/2008 5:05:11 PM PST by callisto
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To: Philly Nomad
It’s simple, you don’t like McCain because he isn’t conservative enough

uh-huh...being a liberal means you're not conservative enough in my book. You must have just registered last year thinking you would actually convince this site of McCain's great point of view, when we've been tracking it for quite some time now.

but because he stood up to Bush, he stood up to the Big Spenders in the GOP,

How exactly? He apparently failed at doing so. He gives 2 different explanations as to why he opposes tax cuts and each time he sounds like Hillary Clinton.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962803/posts

"I disagreed when we had tax cuts without spending restraint," the Arizona senator said. (2008)

In 2001, McCain said the tax cuts favored the wealthy at the expense of the middle class. In 2003, he said there should be no tax cuts until the Iraq war costs were known.

he stood up the the businessmen on immigration.

That's the funniest thing I've heard since Gore claimed he invented the internet. McCain Kennedy was a gift to businesses who were complicit in hiring illegals.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24369&page=5 The Senate bill, S. 1348, by McCain, Kennedy and Harry Reid included many loopholes and perpetually renewable Z visas for illegal aliens. The “background check” on an illegal had to be done in one business day, or else the government had to issue the amnesty visa. Flimsy “evidence” like a buddy’s “affidavit” would satisfy McCain in order to qualify someone for a Z visa. His bill gave illegals in-state tuition.

McCain’s bill allowed amnestees to renew a 4-year Z visa if they merely “attempt to gain an understanding of the English language.” That means “taking” (not passing) the naturalization test (whose standards of English acquisition are woefully inadequate). It also accepted getting “on a waiting list for English classes” (not taking or passing the course). Bottom line, amnestied aliens would remain deficient in English.

What about paying a “very heavy price?” McCain’s bill imposed just $1,000 as the penalty. There were up to $2,000 in various fees, but hardly enough to be regarded as much of a fine. Plus, the $1,000 didn’t have to be paid until after the meaningless “triggers” took effect. S. 1348 didn’t require payment of any back taxes; its last-ditch revision, S. 1639, added a tax requirement for getting a green card.

McCain rejects an attrition-through-enforcement strategy. He ultimately wants both mass legalization of illegal aliens and increases in legal immigration. He’d agree to deporting a couple million criminal aliens, but insists on letting the rest of the illegal population stay on.

In short, McCain has one of the worst grades of any Republican Senator concerning immigration. His overall career and recent Americans for Better Immigration grades are both Ds. On amnesty, he earns F. His congressional record on immigration ABI calls “abysmal.”

Uh, yeah ....right. The Heritage Foundation white paper on McCain Kennedy says otherwise on that ridiculous assertion of yours. If anything, McCain was more than likely in businesses pockets who were dealing with illegals.

You don’t want a leader, you want somebody to ready you bedtime stories.

Look, noobs, I want a conservative in the whitehouse who won't shutout the conservative base and sellout the GOP the way McCain has been doing consistently for the past 8 years. The nonsense of being the media darling in lieu taking the high ground is not leadership, its being an opportunist in power.

112 posted on 02/02/2008 5:32:40 PM PST by paltz
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To: paltz

I find it hard to believe you are accusing McCain being responsible for all the GOP’s problems.

Was it McCain’s fault the GOP increased spending?

Was it McCain’s fault the President didn’t start the surge well before the 2006 election.

Was it McCain’s fault the various GOP congressmen started associating with crooked lobbyists?

McCain has always been conservative and will always be conservative, It’s the Republican party that’s lost it’s way.


113 posted on 02/02/2008 7:37:30 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: Philly Nomad
I find it hard to believe you are accusing McCain being responsible for all the GOP’s problems.

And I find it hard to believe McCain won't take responsibility for all the nonsense legislation his name is attached to. BTW, McCain Kennedy came on the heels of the 2006 elections...don't make it seem like he and Bush were not in on it together.

Was it McCain’s fault the GOP increased spending?

No, but refusing to cut taxes because it benefits the wealthy is socialist economics 101...and McCain has ben reading too much Marxist economics in that area.

Was it McCain’s fault the various GOP congressmen started associating with crooked lobbyists?

Why don't you ask the Keating five that question

McCain has always been conservative and will always be conservative, It’s the Republican party that’s lost it’s way.

None of his past actions have shown that. He tries to play both sides like a fiddle...horribly. If you're so pro-life, you would be disappointed by his stand on funding embryonic stem cell research. If you're so pro-business, you'd be disappointed by his comment that it's better to "serve the gov't than manage for profit"

114 posted on 02/02/2008 7:57:26 PM PST by paltz
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To: Landru

Howdy!

Been puttin’ in LOTS of hours, paying bills and all that.

My sweet wife is as sweet as ever, too!

Good to see you again and I’m always glad when I can
check out FR and hopefully contribute what little I can.

I look forward to the fight and SURELY HOPE the BEST
man (Romney) wins !! (My first pick was Thompson, so I
hold out hope for a Romney-Thompson ticket).

I will surely be sick if McLame gets the nod. :(


115 posted on 02/02/2008 10:38:55 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: potlatch

bumpers !!!


116 posted on 02/02/2008 10:39:15 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: PhilDragoo

bumpers !!


117 posted on 02/02/2008 11:09:44 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: torchthemummy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963612/posts

Take a look at the Romney legacy.


118 posted on 02/04/2008 5:46:32 AM PST by Greg F (Romney appointed homosexual activists as judges in Massachusetts.)
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