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Let's Closely Examine McCain's Record
Human Events ^ | 2/1/2008 | Chris Field

Posted on 02/01/2008 6:14:27 AM PST by callisto

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To: Landru; callisto; potlatch; devolve; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; Iron Munro

41 posted on 02/01/2008 8:29:09 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: callisto
"Check out DoughtyOne's commentary & analysis, Big Tent Politics: Conservatism's Unraveling Yellow Brick Rogue(s) on the present state of the Republican Party and how we got overselves into this position."

I will, and thanks.

Been reading DO's thoughts for many years, here.
Know well how deeply the man's passions, love and loyalty to the republic runs.
That's the one & only reason why I introduced DO to the poster, "Philly Nomad". :o)

Based solely on PN's comment something tells me they're not going to get along.

...*a'tall*. ;^)

42 posted on 02/01/2008 8:38:08 AM PST by Landru (Reality hits the faithful the hardest.)
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To: PhilDragoo; Philly Nomad
Hi Phil, how the hell you been??
Good, I pray.
Thanks for the .jpeg my man, the right-wing has always been able to count on you to keep the faith; and, here once again you come through in flying colors. ;^)

Say, Phil?
I'd like to introduce you to someone.
"Philly Nomad" meet PhilDragoo.

PN likes keeping a list of candidate McCain's *accomplishment(s)* while in government over the past 20 or so years.
You like keeping lists for candidate McCain too, Phil.

Sure sounds like an acquaintanceship made in Heaven.

...to me. {g}

43 posted on 02/01/2008 8:47:47 AM PST by Landru (Reality hits the faithful the hardest.)
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To: Landru

Based on my recent correspondence w/ DO, and your post to PhilDragoo I think this could become a very interesting thread w/ lots of information to gleen.


44 posted on 02/01/2008 8:58:10 AM PST by callisto
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To: Landru
There has simply got to be a reason the MSM/Lefties are so gung ho to endorse him. My guess is they have the goods on him in some way and know what they have, and how they can use it, will sink his candidacy. We’re being set up, I can feel it in my bones.
45 posted on 02/01/2008 9:03:29 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: callisto
“But, Sen. McCain ... working Americans, the middle-class Americans, under the Bush proposals will get a major break. A family of four making $39,000 a year ... will get a $1,100 tax cut for several years, allowing them to plan their individual budgets. That sounds like something that won’t just simply benefit the wealthy.”

McCain’s response: “Well, I think it will.”

If this angry, vindictive old SOB ever makes it to the Oval Office, I can just picture staff meetings, and how he's going to treat members of his cabinet who disagree with him. Didn't we just recently have another president - veteran, military academy graduate - who was similarly unmoveable in his misguided convictions? How did THAT work out?

46 posted on 02/01/2008 9:03:55 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Senator McCain is a great American, a lousy senator and a terrible Republican.)
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To: Landru
Supposedly there's a website called, "Vietnam Vets Against John McCain" or something close to it.

Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain.

47 posted on 02/01/2008 9:09:18 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Senator McCain is a great American, a lousy senator and a terrible Republican.)
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To: callisto
"Based on my recent correspondence w/ DO, and your post to PhilDragoo I think this could become a very interesting thread w/ lots of information to gleen."

Yup, it has potential. {g}

Best get it all outa our systems.

...now. ;^)

48 posted on 02/01/2008 9:19:49 AM PST by Landru (Reality hits the faithful the hardest.)
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To: jwparkerjr
"There has simply got to be a reason the MSM/Lefties are so gung ho to endorse him."

There is.
Trust your horse sense on this & nothing you hear, read or see from the MSM.
As the bald one likes to say" "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior" and nowhere is that truer than trying to figure out what the miserable;e quislings are really up to.
We know what the quislings in the MSM are capable of; so, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck...

"My guess is they have the goods on him in some way and know what they have, and how they can use it, will sink his candidacy."

You got it.
Their [read: quisling mediots] modus operandi hasn't changed one iota, in decades.

"We’re being set up, I can feel it in my bones."

Yup, you feel it in your bones.

...& I in my gut. ;^)

49 posted on 02/01/2008 9:27:14 AM PST by Landru (Reality hits the faithful the hardest.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Thank you for the link, my friend.

I'm sure we'll all be hearing a lot more about this website in the future, undoubtedly from the quisling mediots depending on the timing.

Interestingly enough the local yokel on our Talk Radio station is talking about it.

...right now.

50 posted on 02/01/2008 9:30:36 AM PST by Landru (Reality hits the faithful the hardest.)
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To: Landru
There's been enough sh1t flinging recently that I don't want to add to it but I suggest that you go to Ted Sampley's web site listed in post #47. Read everythng on it and everything else that you can find that Sampley has written. Then check out what others have to say about Sampley's background. Do it with an open mind or even a predisposition that everything he says is true. See what conclusions you draw.

It's a real eye opener. McCain has nothing to worry about.

51 posted on 02/01/2008 9:39:43 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK
"There's been enough sh1t flinging recently that I don't want to add to it but I suggest that you go to Ted Sampley's web site listed in post #47. Read everythng on it and everything else that you can find that Sampley has written. Then check out what others have to say about Sampley's background. Do it with an open mind or even a predisposition that everything he says is true. See what conclusions you draw. It's a real eye opener."

Fair enough.

Sampley??
Wasn't he the driving force behind the, "Swiftboat" thing, responsible for outing Kerry?

Seems there's a thread running now on this very website.
A cursory look showed some saying it's the gospel truth and you (I think) saying there's more to "the story" than meets the eye.
I'll look at the website.
See for myself what he has, make up my own mind.
Thanks.

"McCain has nothing to worry about."

Well that all depends how [it] is or isn't spun by our pals in the quisling media, right?
You've been around long enough to know whether something's true or not has little --if anything-- to do with the outcome of any issue anymore, these days.

It has all to do.

...with the quisling's *agenda*.

52 posted on 02/01/2008 9:58:52 AM PST by Landru (Reality hits the faithful the hardest.)
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To: Landru; Philly Nomad

Remember when Clinton was experincing his darkest days in public office? I’m sure you do. We also remember why he was experiencing them too. He was a man who never grew up. He was a man who couldn’t conduct himself as an adult. At one point he bagan to pull historical names out of a hat and deconstruct them. It seemed reasonable to him to tear down our historical figures in order to make himself look better. Did it make him look better? No. Bill Clinton was what he was and those folks who were not around to defend themselves any longer didn’t deserve to have a child in a man’s body attempt to shift his guilt off on them.

Now we have folks who have decided to back the likes of John McCain. And they think that if they can tear down others, it will make their ‘maverick’ look better. Will it? No. You can put 2,137 coats of paint on that pig of yours, and he’ll still be a pig.

John took a chunck of change from a savings and loan operator. Federal investigators were set to swoop in on that operator, and were asked to hold off. Five Senators took part in that effort. John was one of them. They became known as the Keeting Five. Keeting proceded to bilk untold millions from pensioners over the year it took for the regulators to finally force an audit. Peoples lives were destroyed, life savings gone. John McCain skated while they were forced to pick up the pieces, a lifetime’s worth of savings gone.

John has lined up on the wrong side of the isle many times. I don’t need to list them all. Besides, no one can. Anyone who cares will remember some of them. They’re listed all over this forum. What they won’t remember is how many times John shot his mouth off on talking head shows over the years, deflating efforts that were just taking off. Many of those efforts were in support of good sound conservative principles. And John McCain acted as an agent of the democrat party killing these efforts so he could feel important.

I’m not going to go back and study every Reagan move from 25 years ago, to see if it was reasoned or not, so John McCain can feed his ego, or others can pretend that the donkey in the room is an elephant. And make no mistake about it, John McCain has proven over and over that he is a donkey. President Reagan proved over and over again that he was a great man, truly had a moral compas, and cared more for the people of our nation and others across the global landscape than Captain Queeg McCain ever will.

Don’t stoop to this. McCain simply isn’t worth it.


53 posted on 02/01/2008 10:06:51 AM PST by DoughtyOne (PARTY WANTED: Full Time, Cons exp a must. Refs 20 yrs. No Amnesty sptrs. 1 vote per 4 yrs negotiable)
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To: yldstrk

I would be surprised if he did any better than Goldwater in 1964.

His thrashing will be for entirely different reasons than Goldwater’s of course.


54 posted on 02/01/2008 10:16:07 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Landru
Wasn't he the driving force behind the, "Swiftboat" thing,

There are ties to Corsi and he likes to imply that he was behind it but he never says it and others say there are no ties at all. That would make sense as he was never a Swift boat Vet. It looks to me like he is an opportunist trying to latch on to the Swiftvet's success. He is the originator of the Manchurian candidate theory that McCain is controled by the KGB. This is Twilight Zone stuff.

55 posted on 02/01/2008 10:25:31 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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56 posted on 02/01/2008 10:35:22 AM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: DoughtyOne

There’s a difference between a Republican and a Conservative. McCain is a Conservative. GWB is a republican.

All throughout freerepublic posters cry out for a Republican in the mold of Ronald Reagan. And we have that person in the name of John McCain.

While McCain doesn’t agree with today’s GOP Base, he matches up quite well with Ronald Reagan. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, “I didn’t leave the republican party, the republican party left me.”


57 posted on 02/01/2008 10:40:32 AM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: Philly Nomad
There’s a difference between a Republican and a Conservative. McCain is a Conservative. GWB is a republican.

While I agree with your initial premise here, I don't see either Bush or McCain as a true conservative.

All throughout freerepublic posters cry out for a Republican in the mold of Ronald Reagan. And we have that person in the name of John McCain.

I believe that what you have been reading is a crying out for a Conservative in the mold of Ronald Reagan.

While McCain doesn’t agree with today’s GOP Base, he matches up quite well with Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was an honorable man.  John simply doesn't qualify after the Keeting Five fiasco.  John does match up quite well with the Republican leadership today.  And it was that leadership that wasn't impressed with Reagan at all.  As for the base, if it is accepted that it is Conservative, there is a reason for him not agreeing with them.  He is not a Conservative.

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, “I didn’t leave the republican party, the republican party left me.”

The actual phrase was this.  "I didn't leave the democrat party, the democrat party left me."

Reagan had been a long time democrat in the days when Kennedy was king.  Then along came McGovern and Carter.

58 posted on 02/01/2008 10:52:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (PARTY WANTED: Full Time, Cons exp a must. Refs 20 yrs. No Amnesty sptrs. 1 vote per 4 yrs negotiable)
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To: Philly Nomad

You’d never hear the current candidates ever say “Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem.”


59 posted on 02/01/2008 10:53:58 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (I will run through the gates of hell to not vote McCain/Pawlenty .)
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To: Philly Nomad
While McCain doesn’t agree with today’s GOP Base, he matches up quite well with Ronald Reagan. To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, “I didn’t leave the republican party, the republican party left me.”

In what ways do you think McCain is more authentically conservative than the GOP base?

In what ways has he - unlike your average Republican - stayed true to the Reagan legacy?

60 posted on 02/01/2008 11:01:59 AM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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