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Lawmakers: Public urination shouldn't lead to sex offender status
Eagle Tribune ^ | 31 Jan 08 | Gordon Fraser

Posted on 01/31/2008 6:01:18 PM PST by Drew68

KINGSTON - Starting next year, urinating in public could land you on the sex offender registry.

But two state lawmakers are trying to make sure that doesn't happen.

"People who are caught in a situation of public urination, as part of the complaint they're charged with indecent exposure," said Rep. David Welch, R-Kingston.

This year, that isn't a problem. But starting next year, when New Hampshire complies with a new federal law, anyone convicted of two indecent exposure charges within three years will have to register as a sex offender.

Welch and Rep. Stephen Shurtleff, D-Penacook, think that's wrong.

"I know there are many homeless people in New Hampshire," Shurtleff said. "There are older people with medical conditions ... and also young people may have too much to drink in a bar."

While there should be a law against public urination, he said, the penalty should fit the crime.

Sex offenders must live with numerous restrictions: they're not allowed to live near schools, they often can't coach youth sports, and they're not allowed to stay in homeless shelters, Shurtleff said.

Beyond that, a number of people have been forced, at one time or another, to relieve themselves outdoors, Welch said.

"I don't think it's a major crime wave," he said. "I think what happens is, in most cases, these things happen if the individual might have a medical reason, he just can't help himself; hunters, there's no bathroom in the woods."

That's why the two lawmakers have offered a different law - one that prohibits public urination. Violating the law would result in a violation - a fine that wouldn't leave a permanent criminal record.

Shurtleff had originally recommended a Class B misdemeanor charge, which would leave a permanent criminal record. But he said Welch convinced him the violation charge is preferable.

The issue came up when the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006 was passed. A federal law, the Child Protection Act means states will have to start treating indecent exposure cases differently.

Shurtleff is on the committee tasked with aligning the new federal requirements with their New Hampshire law. When he realized that public urination - which is typically punished by a fine - could land someone on a sex offender registry, he proposed a bill to change that rule, House Bill 1294. He expects the bill to be taken up sometime next week.

Kingston police Chief Donald Briggs said these charges are pretty rare, anyway.

"We have a few incidents a year referencing indecent exposure," he said, but doubted there are more than two or three instances over a 12-month period.


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KEYWORDS: sexoffender
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To: Drew68

I think that any one who is watching me take a pee and wants to arrest me is a voyuer and should be arrested as a sexual devient and a criminal!


21 posted on 01/31/2008 6:19:29 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Drew68

Well, I can see how this might be a valid problem,
then again, maybe not.
In addition...,
ooops, ‘scuse me...be right back...damn Budweiser...
“Hey, turn yer headlights off!”


22 posted on 01/31/2008 6:19:31 PM PST by BunkDetector
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To: Drew68

Follow the money! They’re probably on the take from the makers of Depends!


23 posted on 01/31/2008 6:19:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
The Maine Game Wardens will confiscate your guns and confiscate your car.

Then, they'll form a circle and pee on you.

24 posted on 01/31/2008 6:20:44 PM PST by billorites (I think we're all Freepers on this bus...)
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To: umgud
On the serious side, it pisses me off that they’d water down the true definition of a sex offender.

Can't imagine what the neighborhood sex offender registry is going to look like when they add this "crime" to it. People aren't going to know if they live next to a violent serial rapist or someone who took a leak in the bushes.

25 posted on 01/31/2008 6:23:13 PM PST by Drew68
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To: billorites

And do they all carry portable outhouses? I bet they don’t run very fast, then.


26 posted on 01/31/2008 6:24:15 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Drew68

I agree.


27 posted on 01/31/2008 6:25:11 PM PST by Perdogg (Electing Another Carter to get Another Reagan is a Foolish and Dangerous Strategy)
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To: randog
You can’t get arrested for public urination in Montana. (maybe if you were in town)
I actually asked the police about this at a seminar. lol
28 posted on 01/31/2008 6:28:02 PM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: Drew68
Christmas Eve, three years ago, we were driving from Milan to Florence, Italy. Everyone was on the road, of course, eager to get home for the holidays.

The traffic came to a standstill about 20 miles north of Florence and we spent hours moving at a crawl.

I had three kids in the car and the oldest, at age 12, had to pee so bad he could taste it. We were sitting still on the Autostrada so I tell him to get out and do his thing which he does.

I'm watching him pee on the median in the rear view mirror when the cars ahead of me move out. The cars behind are honking, as the Italians are prone to do, so we left him there and moved on.

One of our favorite Christmas memories is of our son peeing in front of dozens of Italian families and then having to run after us on the Autostrada yelling for us to stop.

29 posted on 01/31/2008 6:28:51 PM PST by billorites (I think we're all Freepers on this bus...)
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To: Drew68

I wouldn’t worry. I think that you have to be tried before a jury of pee-ers.


30 posted on 01/31/2008 6:32:07 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: billorites

>Then, they’ll form a circle and pee on you.<

That’s when they’d find out about the snub .38 I keep under my arm. Yes’ I’d aim for the head.


31 posted on 01/31/2008 6:35:20 PM PST by B4Ranch ((Don't forget to say a prayer for our soldiers out there in harm's way. ))
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To: Drew68

At a certain age, when you’ve got to go, you’ve got to go NOW!


32 posted on 01/31/2008 6:42:42 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Drew68

For men, the entire world is a urinal.


33 posted on 01/31/2008 6:44:23 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ('Yellow is mellow, but brown goes down.' -- The Clinton campaign slogan for 2008)
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To: Drew68

I’ve done it. Not in many, many years, but it certainly wasn’t an exposure thing. I was a drunken college student who had to go.


34 posted on 01/31/2008 6:45:11 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: Drew68
This brings to mind the case of Lance Rentzel, the Dallas Cowboy receiver. He was drunk and drained his lizard on the freeway near Dallas. A female driver recognized him and filed obscenity charges against him because her daughter may have seen his weenie. Rentzel was ruined, ended up losing his wife, Joey Heatherton, and was cut from the Cowboys. All this for draining the lizard on a Texas freeway.I believe he was charged as a sex offender also.
35 posted on 01/31/2008 7:15:03 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

And Ozzy Osbourne was banned from San Antonio for years for taking a leak on the Alamo.


36 posted on 01/31/2008 7:24:08 PM PST by TheRealDBear
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To: billorites

Happens a lot with Bear Whiz Beer.


37 posted on 01/31/2008 7:25:55 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: skeeter

Oh they are exempt due fact they never had indoor plumbing etc ......


38 posted on 01/31/2008 7:26:02 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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if there was a little red light everywhere I have taken a pee, the earth would outshine the sun


39 posted on 01/31/2008 7:35:10 PM PST by dsrtsage
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To: Drew68

A golf course is actually a very nicely landscaped rest room...


40 posted on 01/31/2008 7:42:10 PM PST by CurlyDave
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