Posted on 01/31/2008 2:09:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson
My friends, I have to admit that I've been in a bit of a quandary since the Real Conservatives ® Thompson and Hunter dropped out of the race leaving us to to place our bets on one the four headless horsemen. But after having a day or three to sort it all out, I'm beginning to see a ray of hope.
Number one, my worst fear that the pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun social liberal Rudy Giuliani might be nominated, and thereby bring an abrupt and unholy end to the pro-life conservative movement within the GOP has been allayed. His evil culture of death platform has been soundly rejected by the Republican voters. Thank God! If nothing else is gained, that alone is a huge victory for us!
And that leaves us with the unwelcome slippery task of having to determine and select the least evil of the three remaining RINOs. But wait! When choosing between evils, why not choose the good?
McCain is insane and there are many good reasons not to choose him, but I'll list just five: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman, the Keating 5, and the Gang of 14. No thanks. McCain is out!
Romney ran on a pro-abortion platform, is pro gay rights, is prone to BIG government solutions, promises anything to anyone for a vote, and flip-flops on important issues. Can't trust him.
Now Governor Huckabee. Could this be the good vs evil? He's a Baptist minister. A genuine 100% pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, Southron Christian social conservative!
And that would be my reason no. 1 to support Huckabee. He has the trust and backing of the Christian evangelicals and the support of the Bible Belt. You cannot win the presidency without the South, and I believe the pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-America Mike Huckabee is the most likely of the three GOP hopefuls to carry the South. And that's a pretty darn good reason!
My number two reason is that he is NOT McCain (and that's a pretty darn good reason too).
Number three (and this will be a tough one for a lot of my FReeper Friends) is that he is NOT Romney.
Numbers four and five are he's NOT Hillary and NOT Obama. Oohrah!
Number six, he plays a mean bass and he's a traditional favorite at Free Republic's infamous quadrennial Inaugural Balls in Washington, DC. Perhaps we could persuade President Huckabee to drop by our ball and perform his rocking rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama!" Now, wouldn't that be a hoot!
Number seven, if we can keep Huckabee in the race all the way through, thus preventing McCain or Romney from gaining enough delegates to win the nomination, then maybe, just maybe a deadlocked convention might seek out another candidate. One who can re-unite the Reagan Coalition, save the GOP, and put us back on the conservative track. Of course, my personal favorite to be that man would be FRed Thompson.
Woo hoo!!
Let it ring out through grassroots America and on to the convention! Support life! Support the GOP! Support Huckabee! And re-draft FRed Thompson!!
Never give in, never give up, and never lose hope.
Long live the Reagan Revolution!
There you go..stirrin’ the pot..LOL
Romney’s trip down the road to Damascus occured at an awful late, and convenient, time in his adult life and political career.
What makes more sense is that his support of abotion (including federal funding of it) and the homosexual agenda was a calculated move for his political future in Mass.
And that his “conversion” is a calculated move for his political future in D.C.
Unlike Paul, Mitt has not seen his entire life changed. Only his politics of opportunity.
Oh, man. This place would be like DU after the Supreme Court ruling on the 2000 election....
I don't understand why so many social conservatives refuse to believe that Romney has made a true conversion to their principles. They don't seem to believe in a man being able to redeem himself. Ronald Reagan would never have made it through this crowd. On second thought, Reagan wasn't a Mormon. I'm not trying to stir anything up here, just stating the fact that some will not vote for him because of his faith. That's their choice. It seems that some who fall into that category will openly admit their bias while others hide it by attacking Romney's sincerity.
It means that whatever faction is in control of the party would become the king maker. Right now the RINO's are fully in charge and McCain would get the nod.
Let’s analyze. First, we have to presume that the nominee hasn’t already been selected and that our vote in the primary means something other than squat.
Now, what happens when texas native turns out to be right, if voting for Huckabee turns into a vote for McCain? I’m thinking we really have no choice but to back Romney from jumpstreet or we’re sure to get stuck with McCain.
The only thing helping us is that all the Dems have are a lesbo Marxist and a black Muslim. I have to pray that either one of them is just too far out there for most voters.
Pull my other leg. The one with bells on it...
Okay, give me a list of viable conservative candidates who made an attempt to run for President and were denied ballot access. I'll wait.
(I’m a little late to the party but)
As to #7: I disagree. If you want a brokered convention, the only “direction” in which to move is Romney, IMHO. McCain is sufficiently (if not prohibitively) far ahead that Huckabee is largely competing with Mitt, not with McCain — and he (Huck) can knock Mitt out on Feb. 5. In that event, you get McCain. Again, JMO, and anything could happen.
Thompson ‘08
So many feelings, I just cannot express them right now....sigh...
It's just that as a lifelong Mormon, from a multigenerational family of Mormons, Mitt should have NEVER been other wrong side of the issues to beGIN with!
He was, for God's sake, a BISHOP in the church before he was ever Governor!
How does one grow up with all of the positive influences that the LDS Organization® supposedly provides and NOT know that abortion is wrong?
Splitting the conservative vote and ensuring a McCain victory is the reason.
He said some event happened in his family that changed their minds. He bragged (when running for office in liberal Massachusetts) that his mother ran for Senator from Michigan as a pro-choice Republican. He bragged his mother ran as a "pro-choice Republican!!!" Do you get it?
He flipped on abortion. He flipped on traditional marriage. He flipped on the Second Amendment (Brady Bill).
And we social conservatives keep getting asked "How come you can't trust him?"
The better question is why fiscal conservatives do?
Put me down as an ardent pro-lifer (unlike some, I've actually been putting my money, my mouth & my time in action for the cause since I was 18) who will take MITT over McCain anyday. Whatever he said to get elected in the bluest state in the nation, while in office Mitt came down on the side of life every single time, despite what some are saying in this forum.
The mercurial Mr. McCain however has filed amicus briefs for the prosecution against private pro-life groups (Wisconsin) in an attempt to restrict them from speaking out for life, has said that Alito is too conservative, flipped on the destruction of embryos for research & now favors the killing of fetuses for science and on & on.
And yet there are late converts to the cause here who are advocating that pro-lifers support McCain by voting for Huck in the primaries to shut out Mitt on putatively pro-life grounds? And cavalierly throw away everything we've worked our buns off for years to get so far?
There is a good reason most of the Roman Catholic & ecumenical pro-life & intelligentsia has endorsed Mitt. And it ain't because he's cute. It's because he's the most rightward candidate who is electable nationally who will be the most reliably amenable to the furtherance of the pro-life cause.
If you want to help nominate McCain through the Huckabee gambit for other reasons, just say what they are. But don't tell pro-lifers who've been working for the cause their entire adult lives from both the the inside as well as out in the trenches that it's because McCain is better on life issues than Mitt is. Demonstrably, he is not.
That is the biggest bunch of bull-puckey making its way around the last couple of days.
I am a Huckabee supporter, and if Huck dropped out I would vote for McCain, not Romney.
You need to understand, I am a social conservative first, fiscal and foreign policy conservative second. The issues most important to me are the Second Amendment, Right to Life, traditional marriage, and family values. Romney has flipped on ALL those issues in one way or another. He can’t be trusted. I NEED conservative justices and judges. Romney can’t be trusted.
Now McCain can’t be entirely trusted either! But he can be trusted on some of my issues more than Romney.
So when everyone sits around and talks about Huck stealing votes from Romney, social conservatives like me see them all blowing nothing but a lot of hot air.
The Constitution Party supports the pro-surrender policy of Ron Paul.
I can admit that Romney likely paid lip service to supporting abortion, and for treating homo's decently, partially to get elected in liberal Massachusetts.
Was that smarmy? Yeah, I suppose so.
I also believe he, like many politicians, really DID have personal opposition .... but simply wanted to ease the fears of the far left liberal Democrats in that state.
He ended up losing in 1994 anyway.
Romney fought against government sanctioned homo marriage, and he vetoed embryonic stem cell research.
He supported several other ProLife positions while Governor, which is why he got an A-/B+ from the National ProLife organization.
Your claims that Romney was this total abortion rights person does not square with the facts.
Yes, just the kind of thing that that phony conservaitve would do. I wonder what he's getting for it. My guess? The Vice Presidential nomination.
I think the make-or-break issue for folks like you (me, too) is whether you believe Mitt’s rather recent “conversions” to be sincere. If you do, then you’re probably goign to favor him over McCain (and I tend to ... but I have some doubts; who couldn’t?). If you don’t accept them as sincere, you’re going to be for McCain or Huckabee.
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