Divided views as US fence goes up

BBC News ^ | 1/31/08 | Duncan Kennedy

[DoughtyOne]

It was my opinion that you were pointing out the fact that even if multiple teams are working on this project at one mile per year, it would still take 58 years to build.

I think your’s was a humorous way to tell it just like it is.

I agree with you. It’s my take we’re being placated with an effort that really isn’t going anywhere. We’ll see.

[OrioleFan]

Our newest DemocRAT Senator from Ohio, Sherrod Brown, told me “Lets deal with amnesty first, then we can discuss how high the fence should be and how many border patrol folks we need.” I told him he was full of sh**.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Agreed. Hopefully the fence is fully built and turns out to be effective.

[Southack]

59 can’t apply to me because I didn’t insult you.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks. Yes, we can both share that hope. Take care.

[Mojohemi]

try a size one fonts, it is better for the blind people to read !!

[DoughtyOne]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962767/posts?page=61#61

[B4Ranch]

>> “What do you think of it?” I ask Marco, a Mexican, deported from America and now trying to get back into a country where hourly wages are up to 10 times those in Mexico. “It’s unfair” is his simple reply.<<

Now.................

I hope the following 14 reasons are read so many times that the readers get sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Homeland Security Report
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publications.php?b=deportation

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States’.
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals

The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !

[tumblindice]

Nice post. The fence is a bargain compared to continuing to serve as Mexico’s dept. of health, education & welfare, and employment office.
But a fence is a sort of challenge to a neighbor. What would you do if you put up a `privacy fence’, or just a 4’ chain link fence, and your neighbor just ignored it and climbed over it or damaged it by cutting holes in it or cutting it down, or destroyed it in his determination to gain access to your yard or home?
You would call the police. So who do we call when this fence is half-completed and a good part of Mexico is still emptying into our country through Arizona, New Mexico and Texas?
McCain? Obama or Clinton?

[geopyg]

A mile of fence “here”. To make it fit with the “end of this year” phrase implies to me that there is more than just this work crew “here” working on the fence. I suppose about 60 different work crews/sections (700/12 miles/year). I hope so anyway!

And continued increased ICE enforcement that we have already seen under Bush at businesses and farm fields should get lots of illegals to leave just based on the fear of getting caught. Unless McCain or the Dems call it all off.

This problem that has been ongoing for 30 years will not get solved overnight - but with a completed fence and enforcement of existing laws I think it will be on its way. And yes there will be increased produce costs, etc. until the market can get that figured out.

[Tex Pete]

Staggering!

[ECM]

True, but how many teams are we talking? Are we now looking at ‘only’ 10, 20, 30 years? All of these certainly would count as “too long” in my book (since, again, we are only talking about 700 miles of a border that is many times that size.)

[dan1123]

Heh, I’m so used to these contradictions from liberals that I missed that one. Good job pointing it out.

[avacado]

Was the immigrtion bill defeated by the Republican Party! YES!

Adios!

[CPT Clay]

Divided 67% for and 33% against?

[citizen]

—— Roughly a mile of fencing is being erected every month here. ——

Yeah, that just jumps out at you, doesn’t it?

Well, it’s better than nothing being done. How about we hire two crews and make it a mile/month in each direction? That should be doable.

To show I’n not an inflexible idealogue, I’ll agree to allowing Illegal Immigrant labor being used, with the requirement they are on the south side of the fence when it’s finished.

[John Jorsett]

The Great Wall took less time to erect than this fence.

[org.whodat]

There are at least four comments on this thread all positing the same thing: that work on the fence is being worked linearly one piece at a time. Reserve your /ss for them.

Did the writer say that there was one mile of fence a month going up. Yes that is what he said. Now give us a link to the other contractors and how many miles they are putting up a month. The fact is there has been so many untruths told about the fence construction, I would need to see pictures before I would believe anything.

So where is the link and pictures of where the fence is under construction and how many miles have been built since the fence bill was signed by jorge. But my post was a joke, like the fence construction so far has been a joke. Sorry you did not get it.

[B4Ranch]

>So who do we call when this fence is half-completed and a good part of Mexico is still emptying into our country through Arizona, New Mexico and Texas?
McCain? Obama or Clinton?<

None of the above. Mitt or Paul. Myself, I’d call Paul.

[org.whodat]

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