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(Forbes) Worst Places: America's Most Miserable Cities
Forbes ^ | 1/30/08 | Kurt Badenhausen

Posted on 01/31/2008 9:39:40 AM PST by MotleyGirl70

Edited on 02/01/2008 2:28:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Imagine living in a city with the country's highest rate for violent crime and the second-highest unemployment rate. As an added kicker you need more Superfund dollars allocated to your city to clean up contaminated toxic waste sites than just about any other metro.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bluezones; charlotte; chicago; cities; detroit; filthydelphia; flint; losangeles; miserablecities; modesto; newyork; providence; stockton; topten; urban
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To: Clemenza

Yes Newark is and has been considerably worse than those places because it is considerably larger. Camden is a wreck, but it is tiny in comparison. Newark’s sprawl brought down suburbs for miles around. Camden hasn’t. There is Camden, the Camden River, and then healthy to affluent suburbs.


41 posted on 01/31/2008 9:59:12 AM PST by Williams
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To: ishabibble

Well, I hope the Rhode Island refugees bring Portuguese restaurants whereever they go.


42 posted on 01/31/2008 9:59:22 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: NativeNewYorker
This is a joke. Flint and Philly are crime-ridden cesspools losing population, while New York has a record-low crime rate and is gaining people.

How does NYC end up between the other two?

I would say the below paragraph sums it up:

"The Big Apple is the nation's center for financial services, publishing, advertising and countless other industries, making job opportunities plentiful. But the costs can make all but the super-wealthy miserable. Housing costs are through the roof, and income tax rates are 10.5%, more than twice the U.S. average. Commuting times are also the worst, at an average of 36 minutes each way."

In other words, in New York it takes forever to get to work, you pay most of your salary for a tiny room to live in, and the government takes the rest of your money in taxes.

43 posted on 01/31/2008 9:59:51 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Vote Republican in 2008 or President Hillary Clinton will be reading your FBI file!!!)
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To: dangus

Considering that Philly is now the Gay Mecca of the East, that might endear him to the residents.


44 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:40 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: dangus
I’m wondering if Santa wasn’t provocative. Did he come out in rainbow attire to celebrate Gay Pride Day or something?

No, they were angry because the Eagles had won a meaningless game to finish the season 2-11, making them ineligible to receive #1 draft pick OJ Simpson.

Of course this is hardly an isolated incident. The Eagles fans cheared when Michael Irvin broke his neck ending his career.

The City of Philadelphia set up a courtroom inside Veterans Stadium to speed the booking of the many fans arrested each game.

45 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:42 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Slapshot68

Thank you! (See name)

As far as misery is concerned....

Seattle.
Wet.
Gray.
Full to the brim with liberal slime.
Bigger homosexual population that San Francisco.
Both Senators, Governor, and Mayor-all staunch Democrats.

Need I say more?


46 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:47 AM PST by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: Williams
I will disagree. Newark has the Ironbound (best place in the NE for Iberian and Brazilian food). Although you have sh-tholes like Irvington and East Orange (just as Philly has Chester and Camden), you also have the oh-so-trendy limo lib suburbs of Montclair and Maplewood, to say nothing of Livingston, Essex Fells, Roseland, and the Caldwells, which are considerably nicers than ANYWHERE in the southern part of the state.

Suburban South Jersey is mostly blue collar hell, but you are right that Camden is small relative to the surrounding area.

47 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:53 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Clemenza

Believe it or not, your average Chinese/Albanian/Dominican/Ecuadorian/Nigerian would much prefer a large house on a large lot in suburbia than a row house/flat in Queens or Brooklyn.


And living in NYC is the way they will acquire that American dream one day. NYC will also serve to assimilate their children


48 posted on 01/31/2008 10:02:23 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
This is a joke. Flint and Philly are crime-ridden cesspools losing population, while New York has a record-low crime rate and is gaining people.

From the article (which takes income tax into consideration) :

Housing costs are through the roof, and income tax rates are 10.5%, more than twice the U.S. average.

49 posted on 01/31/2008 10:03:05 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: Slapshot68

Folks in my neck of the woods look at Philly the way the Corleone’s looked at Fredo. ;-)


50 posted on 01/31/2008 10:03:29 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: MotleyGirl70

I was just glad that for once the rust belt wasn’t picked on. Pittsburgh (and Cleveland) flew under the radar...or maybe we have lost so much of our populations that we are not in the top 150 :( PaMom


51 posted on 01/31/2008 10:03:37 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (I do not want people to be agreeable, as it saves me the trouble of liking them. Jane Austen.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Interesting list. But how does New York get a rating of 86 for weather and Philadelphia get a rating of 64 when they’re only about 90 miles apart and have almost identical climates?


52 posted on 01/31/2008 10:04:10 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Clemenza

LOL! I actually heard that phrase in Atlantic City NJ when I was there for a summer.
“Whats a hoagie? Oh, you mean a sub!”

Of course, that was in the 70s. :)


53 posted on 01/31/2008 10:04:14 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: durasell

I knew a (rather attractive) lady from Albania who talked to me about how happy she was to move from Astoria to Staten Island recently. To me, anyone who would think Staten Island is “nice” is insane (breath in all that methane and hair spray!), but to her, it was nice to have a yard and some space.


54 posted on 01/31/2008 10:04:58 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: NativeNewYorker

It’s the horrendous commute times and income taxes, I guess. New York City ranks dead last among the 150 cities in both of those categories.


55 posted on 01/31/2008 10:05:44 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Clemenza

BTW — the writer, Gary Shteyngart, the author of The Russian Debutante’s Handbook, wrote a brilliant piece for the NYTs after 9/11. About how growing up as a young immigrant from Russia he wanted a suburban house, lawn, etc. etc. then came back from college and fell in love with the city — after realizing it was his home.


56 posted on 01/31/2008 10:06:52 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Clemenza

Astoria has an Albanian population? I thought they were all uptown.


57 posted on 01/31/2008 10:08:21 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Alberta's Child; NativeNewYorker

When I lived in Bay Ridge (Brooklyn), it took me 45 minutes to get to Midtown on the express bus. Where I live now near Princeton, it takes me 45-55 minutes to midtown by train. This is why I laugh when folks who live in Brooklyn or Queens act as if I live in the boonies and that I have a “long trip.” If you live in the Rockaways or Canarsie, it actually takes longer to get to midtown than if you live in Princeton.


58 posted on 01/31/2008 10:08:23 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: MotleyGirl70

Where is New Orleans on this list?


59 posted on 01/31/2008 10:08:59 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: durasell

The Bronx (and Yonkers) have the bulk of the Albanian population, especially in Morris Park and Throgs Neck, where they have replaced the Italians (even buying up all the pizzerias). Nevertheless, a sizeable number moved to Astoria (especially near Steinway) during the 1980s and early 90s.


60 posted on 01/31/2008 10:10:01 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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