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To: Tolik
Not really. "Jihadism" is still a big dodge.

The enemy is ISLAM. Full stop.


11 posted on 01/31/2008 9:04:12 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

Anybody who reads a little bit (hint,hint), knows how this will all turn out....

Get yourselves ready!


13 posted on 01/31/2008 9:10:05 AM PST by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: Jack Black
I'm not sure I agree with all your points, but your general premise is valid.

This article is basically a veiled attempt to explain away some clear inconsistencies in U.S. foreign policy that expose the so-called "war on terror" as a complete fraud.

I'll cite three specific examples:

1. This country's use of military force to establish and prop up a nation in Iraq in which Islam is enshrined as the official state religion.
2. The U.S. support for Islamic elements in the Balkans (Bosnia and Kosovo in particular) over the years.
3. The U.S. support for Chechen separatists and other regional/ethnic groups in the former Soviet republics over the years.

16 posted on 01/31/2008 9:47:09 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Jack Black

Jihad = Kampf

Jihad is the heart of Islam just as Kampf was to Hitler’s Naziism (which lives on in the Muslim Brotherhood.)


17 posted on 01/31/2008 9:52:33 AM PST by Poincare (Hope is nostalgia for the future.)
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To: Jack Black; monday
I'll tell you honestly. I don't want to fight the whole 1.5 billion Muslims. There is no Machiavelli , Sun Tzu or Paton who would prefer to do that. I think that its easier for us to fight "only" 200 millions of Jihadists. They successfully subvert the West's left to do their bidding. Why should not we pull all that Muslims who don't ACT jihadi to our side?

Note that I am not disagreeing that Jihad is born out of Islam. What I don't want to do is to know what they think their theology tells them, only how they act. There are hundreds upon hundreds of millions of Muslims who don't act jihad in their daily lives. If some muslims call them bad muslims for that - its their internal struggle. Look what happened in Iraq. Sunni turned away from Al Quada and call them "bad" muslims now. Did you read any of Michael Yon and Michael Totten reports from there?

That's the point. If you want to announce that 1.5 billion people are your enemies no matter what, what are you going to do? Nuke the hell out of them? If that is your solution, I am not with you. It won't be good for our sole neither. If we will be pushed into it - its totally different matter, but not by our choice. As Iraq and Afghanistan show, we can have muslim allies fighting radicals along side with us. Look at India - outside of some hot spots, the Muslims there enjoy relative democracy and peace.

My recipe is to fight smartly, confront them here and there as a confident "strong horse", with lots of self-respect and more of the type of work our guys in Iraq and Afghanistan doing, more Petraeus, Machiavelli and Sun Tzu and less of "nuke'm all, god will sort 'em out" - there is a difference between our Judeo/Christian philosophy and theirs after all, isn't it?

19 posted on 01/31/2008 10:17:01 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Jack Black
#11 ...

You nailed it! .................. FRegards

28 posted on 01/31/2008 11:17:09 AM PST by gonzo (Hold yer nose and vote - Hold yer nose and vote - Geez, I'm sick-of-this-sh!t ...)
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To: Jack Black

>>>Not really. “Jihadism” is still a big dodge.
The enemy is ISLAM. Full stop.

It is the Islamic nations, not the Jihadi scum, that created OPEC that has been screwing with the world economy since Nixon.
It’s Islamic nations, not Jihadis, who invaded Israel in 1948, 1954, 1967, 1973 and many times since.
It is Islam itself, not Jihadis, that gives support to the terrorist Palistinians, 1/2 of whom are not Jihadi’s, but semi-secularized.
It is Islam, the religion, that oppresses woman and continues to put forward the customs of female cicumcision, honor killing, oppressive traditional polygamy.
It is Islam itself which has created the madrassas that poison the minds of millions, some small percentage of who eventually become Jihadis.
It is Islam itself, not Jihadis, that does not acknowledge freedom of religion and supports the death penalty for aposty.
It is Islam, not the small Jihadi offshoot, that has turned huge swaths of Europe into “no-go” zones for the native Europeans.
It is Islam, itself, not just Jihadis, that enjoins followers to war continously against all other faiths.
It is everyday Moslems, not Jihadis that continuously riot over cartoons, the Popes speech and anything else.
It is Islam, and it’s followers that is so stealthiy taking over institutions and using them to squelch dissent. (Such as the Canadian Human Rights Comission, the Finland Internet censors, etc.
In summary it is ISLAM that is the problem.

There. I’ve named it.

This article STILL misses the damn point. <<<

Gee, you’re already illegal in Canada and much of the European Union. In other words, we’re screwed.


30 posted on 01/31/2008 12:44:51 PM PST by redpoll
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