Posted on 01/31/2008 6:51:39 AM PST by reaganaut1
Many Freepers, including me, are disappointed that McCain will likely be the nominee. I'll vote for Romney on Super Tuesday.
If McCain wins the nomination, I will vote for him on the *hope* he will be less bad than Clinton or Obama would be. I see no reason to actively support him by contributing to or volunteering for his campaign. I think we should focus on congressional and gubernatorial campaigns, trying to hold the seats of real conservatives and maybe pick off a few vulnerable Democrats in what will likely be a Democratic year. Any suggestions?
I think McCain is leading because even most Republicans, not to mention the country, are not very conservative. We need to change the overall political climate before we can elect a true conservative. People are conservative for various reasons. To me, contributing the the Club for Growth (focusing on free-market policies) makes more sense than contributing to the national Republican party or especially the McCain campaign. Social conservatives have groups like Concerned Women for America. We also need to fight liberal bias in the schools and the media. There are lots of ways to promote conservatism other than participating in the presidential campaign, with the understanding that the payoff will not come in the near term.
You need help. Britney could use some company.
That is why Huckabee stays in the race to take the religious right in South from Romney for his Mormanism. That is really sad.
Get out now Hucakabee!! You are a spoiler.
ya’know, what is interesting and annoying is there are plenty of conservatives (FREEPERS INCLUDED I BET) who will spout “smaller gov’t!” all day long, but if they don’t get theirs from the public till, they will scream bloody murder.
I will vote for the Republican nominee whether I like him or not.
Wouldn’t it be nice if McCain was as mean, vindictive, unyielding and uncompromising to Democrats as he is to members of his own party?
Very good.
I will vote for the most conservative candidate for the House from my district. I will not vote for a Presidential candidate this year.
LOL...YES,I DO!!
Their influence has reached a point that they are picking Republican candidates like McCain through the media. Now all the left leaning Republicrats are coming out and publicly endorsing McCain. Hell Medved, a moderate, is very busy making sure that the Republican party “grows” and “includes” more people. Well, this is basically going to mean that the Republican party is going to have to become more left leaning and Medved “was” a lefty.
So, with that, the country is indeed moving left because of people who are liberals have joined the Republican party and called it being more “inclusive”, they called it “growing”.
I think conservatives need to join the Democrats and force them to be more inclusive as well because they are successfully separating the concept of conservatism from the Republican party by “growing”. If this trend continues, you will see the Republican party split.
I think we should all vote strategically: If there is hope our vote (in the primaries or the general) will give delegates or electoral votes to the lesser (or least) of the evils running, hold your nose and vote that way. If not make a protest vote: vote for Fred or Duncan in the primaries, or a third party (or write-in) in the general.
Working hard to unseat vulnerable Democrats in the House and Senate is a splendid idea, and don’t forget state and local politics.
Just in case it hasn’t been said on this thread already, I have to ask: why is McCain, like all his primary opponents, taking such pains to label himself the “true” conservative if conservatism is on the wane?
Why isn’t McCain highlighting his Immigration and “campaign finance” policies if they are supposedly so popular?
I think the MSM is spinning the hell out of this one.
And I honestly feel like if it’s McCain vs Clinton (or Obama) that I DON’T have a candidate this year. Either way, the country will suffer and maybe come to its senses again in 2012. (But it might be harder to get a real conservative if McCain has been president - the electorate won’t be willing to give Republicans a third chance in a row. who’s kidding whom?)
This year is reminding me more and more of 1976, or 1996. I fear that in retrospect we will see that there was little chance of a Republican winning in any event, and that “giving it to McCain” and letting the Democrats take the hit for the mess to come will ultimately be the best thing for the conservatives (and the COUNTRY) in the long run.
My, don’t I sound weepy? Flame away, people - I’d WELCOME information that would change my mind.
> I think that [McCain] would behave like a whipped puppy in her presence <
Or McCain will behave just as did Jack Kemp in the latter’s disgraceful 1996 debate with Algore. Remember that one? It sickens me still.
(Algore went on and on about the evil perpetuated by most Republicans, but then complimented Kemp for not being one of the evil guys. At that point, rather than rebut Algore’s crude slander against the GOP, Kemp meekly thanked him for the exemption!)
JaneNC: I believe the majority of people are conservative.
The problem is that there are at least three distinct forms of conservatism -- social, small-government, and national defense. Most Americans are conservative along one or two of those axes, but a distinct minority on all three.
reaganaut1I think a segment of the population is actually more conservative than that same segment was 20 years ago - the 18-30 crowd
I certainly see signs of that. Certainly conservatives on campus are more vocal and engaged than they were in years past. But again there's the question of what's a conservative? Young folks who self-identify as conservative are more likely to be pro-choice and supportive of gay rights than older cohorts.
If McCain is the nominee, I sit the General out. I’d rather have a Dem in office that we can blame for their failures than a disaster like McCain that will assure the party goes to the left.
Spot on!!!!!
The conservative base is like a beaten wife, constantly coming back home because their afraid to be on their own, because the national party keeps promising to "change".
They can KMA. I'm tired of being treated like the beaten wife. I'd rather let a Dem in to do maximum damage, first, than let the national checked-pants RINO's get away with this. They need to be taught a lesson once and for all. If 1/3 or 1/2 of the base stays home - they lose. And they will learn a harsh lesson for 2012. Give us a true conservative, or p-ss off. It took four years of Carter to get us eight years of Reagan. I'll take that gamble this year. I'm staying home or voting third party if the nominee is McCain.
If I was conspiracy minded, I'd say that McCain would be just fine with another Clinton white house anyway.
At this point, I can’t go for McVain. But does anyone else notice how Mrs. McVain seems to not be right? She seems to not really be there, when standing behind him. I think she might be on some kind of pills. Not wanting to start anything that is not true but she just does not look right.
I had a friend who is not really informed about politics call me this AM. She’s a Christian, a Republican, but the first words out of her mouth were that she had decided that Huckabee was “a spoiler”...she used those words, just like you said.
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