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A President Like My Father...Caroline Kennedy endorses Obama
New York Times ^ | 01/27/2008 | Caroline Kennedy

Posted on 01/26/2008 6:44:42 PM PST by steadcom

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To: jwparkerjr
unequipped for instrument flight

It's virtually certain that his plane was equipped for instrument flight. He probably even had an autopilot that he could have just turned on, that would have kept him right-side up. But he probably never even experimented with the thing. He was a very low time pilot and it's pretty obvious he didn't know how to use his instruments.

ML/NJ

221 posted on 01/27/2008 6:32:19 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: societygirl

“But Obama is young, inexperienced, and has no common sense.”

That may all be true. But then John McCain is old, experienced, and has no common sense. The Obama I hear speaking now is not the same man who wrote “Dreams from My Father” in 1995. I still don’t want to vote for him, but hopefully if we get stuck with him he won’t be the disaster that book would seem to imply.


222 posted on 01/27/2008 6:49:01 AM PST by devere
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To: societygirl

Can reports of things said at Mrs. Onassis’ deathbed actually be believed? I mean, whom among those present at her bed would repeat any of it? Shouldn’t we be careful what we believe?

BTW, kudos to Caroline for endorsing Obama.


223 posted on 01/27/2008 6:58:28 AM PST by katieanna
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To: societygirl
He wrote part of it, and also wrote a brilliant college thesis,"Why England Slept," about the growing menace of Hitler.

I think you'll find that work of JFK's was actually written, either by him or a ghostwriter paid by his father, to paper over the latter's well-known fondness for genocidal dictators - a trait obviously shared by his grandson & namesake (and Mrs Schlossberg's cousin).

224 posted on 01/27/2008 7:00:47 AM PST by Heatseeker
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To: devere

Dang. Those are pretty strong words...Obama and McCain have No common sense???? Ok, I may not agree with either of them all the time, but no common sense? Pretty strong words for two highly educated people...
Cheers.


225 posted on 01/27/2008 7:01:38 AM PST by katieanna
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To: devere

Most white women will not vote for a black man, even Dem women. Look at the SC exit polls.


226 posted on 01/27/2008 7:05:00 AM PST by societygirl
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To: katieanna

Yes, as JFK’s stupid sisters repeated it to the press, and so did some of the other people there. No one ever gave the Kennedys credit for class.


227 posted on 01/27/2008 7:06:08 AM PST by societygirl
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To: Heatseeker

Yup, Joe Kennedy just LOVED Hitler. That’s why FDR removed him as Ambassado to England. JFK never had any history of liking Hitler.


228 posted on 01/27/2008 7:07:55 AM PST by societygirl
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To: steadcom

its easy to draw comparisons.

decorated war hero vs neigborhood crack dealer


229 posted on 01/27/2008 7:08:28 AM PST by bluedressman
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To: roamer_1

What, you mean a member of a black supremist church is dangerous. What about the fact that he dont say the pledge or places his hand over his heart to the national anthem. This guy is a flat out, number one, dyed in the wool Anti American.
The Democrats love people like this. They are cut from the same cloth.


230 posted on 01/27/2008 7:08:42 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( The Democrats are a stench in the nostrals of honest citizens.)
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To: kcvl

JFK may have been a scumbag, but at least he defended the country in time of war, tried to stand up against Castro and made the USSR back down.
JFK could be a moderate Republican today. He would be more conservative than John Insane.


231 posted on 01/27/2008 7:14:20 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( The Democrats are a stench in the nostrals of honest citizens.)
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To: ml/nj
You are certainly correct! My bad. Thanks for pulling me up short on that one. My mind got off the beaten path when I was thinking of him as not being rated and therefore probably didn’t make sure he had everything needed to fly IFR legally.

You’re also very correct about the autopilot. Too bad one of his instructors hadn’t shown him how easy it is to engage the autopilot when you find yourself in conditions that you aren’t trained for. Nothing like letting the autopilot do the flying while you try to figure out how you’re going to get yourself out the mess you’re in.

I have flown that model Saratoga and the autopilot was not all that great, but certainly enough to keep you in level flight and call for help. Hopefully someone would have at least told him how to use the heading bug to make a 180 out of there.

What an absolutely preventable accident. How sad for everyone involved.

232 posted on 01/27/2008 7:18:33 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: alrea

Dean, Gore and Kennedy (Ted) have not endorsed.


233 posted on 01/27/2008 7:31:10 AM PST by drubyfive
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To: jwparkerjr
Too bad one of his instructors hadn’t shown him how easy it is to engage the autopilot

None of my instructors ever showed me how to use an autopilot. (In some ways similarly, I never used a headset when I flew with my instrument instructor. It really made me much better at managing things when I was on my own, I think, because it was as if I had a whole extra hand.) As soon as I got my private though, I started experimenting and reading, and experimenting again. I really didn't use them all that much as I preferred to do the flying myself.

ML/NJ

234 posted on 01/27/2008 7:36:24 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: do the dhue

I think she lost her mind


235 posted on 01/27/2008 7:37:57 AM PST by molette67
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To: jwparkerjr

My ex is one of the world’s greatest aviators, and several months before that crack-up, he said that JFK Jr. would kill himself in that plane. Said he was the joke of the aviators school. After it happened, I asked him, “why?” He knew him, and his father, and said that both JFKs had a death wish. God granted BOTH of them their wish.


236 posted on 01/27/2008 7:39:38 AM PST by societygirl
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To: societygirl
White WOMEN did not vote for him.

True, but not because of bigotry. Most of them actually like Hillary.

237 posted on 01/27/2008 7:41:01 AM PST by drubyfive
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To: steadcom

Here’s all any Conservative needs to know about Barrack Hussein Obama:

Special Interest Group Ratings:

Planned Parenthood - 100% Support
National Right To Life - 0% Support
NARAL - 100% Support
Americans for Tax Reform - 0% Support
ACLU - 83% Support
NEA - 100% Support
NOW Hags - 100% Support
Citizens Against Government Waste - 13% Support
Gun Owners of America - 0% Support
NRA - “F” Rating
Federation for American Immigration Reform - 0% Support
US Border Patrol - 8% Support
Unions - 82% - 100% Support
Population Connection - 100% Support (These are the ‘Zero Growth’ freaks)

http://vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BS030017

[Barrack Hussein Obama’s record in the Illinois senate:]

- Opposed the Defense of Marriage Act; would work to repeal it in the U.S. Senate; would not vote for any legislation that would restrict the ability of gays and lesbians to marry.
- Opposed the Born Alive Infant Protection Act four times in Illinois. A similar bill passed the U.S. Senate 98-0. The Born Alive bill would have prohibited a baby from being born alive but left to die according to the mother’s wishes. Obama inexplicably opposed this bill not once, twice, or three times, but four times.
- Obama took almost $90,000 in bundled contributions from the Council for a Livable World. The council is a well-known anti-defense organization.
- Obama puts rigid ideology before what’s best for the people of Illinois, and presumably he would do that as President as well. He has on several occasions made public his opposition to the NAFTA trade agreement and his belief that it must be negotiated. All the while thanks to NAFTA, Illinois exports $1.3 billion in agricultural goods to Canada.
- Obama refused to vote for a bill in the Illinois State Senate that would have increased penalties for drug traffickers.
- Obama voted against a bill that would have delivered the death penalty to gang members who murder first responders.
- Finally, just in case you thought it couldn’t get any worse, Obama was the only member of the Illinois State Senate to vote against a bill that prohibited early release for sexual predators.

Can’t kill the innocent fast enough, can’t free the guilty soon enough!


238 posted on 01/27/2008 7:41:19 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: societygirl

While JFK himself never got caught being out in public with his father’s appeasement BS, “Why England Slept” can be seen largely as an attempt to exonerate dear old dad by blaming everybody else for the fact that the Nazis swallowed up most of Europe, especially the English themselves - which I’ve always thought was a bit cheeky, since it was published as Nazi bombs were raining down all over England.


239 posted on 01/27/2008 7:43:54 AM PST by Heatseeker
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To: societygirl

Jackie never said she hated JFK. He never beat her.

I don’t know where you get all that drivel.


240 posted on 01/27/2008 7:43:57 AM PST by cajungirl
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