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1 posted on 01/24/2008 5:17:02 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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If the opposing candidates are faxing in talkingpoints, they must be worried about Romney.

lol


1,930 posted on 01/24/2008 7:31:17 PM PST by TomGuy
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Every time I hear that how much these dolts dislike Romney, I like him more.

Hank


2,026 posted on 01/24/2008 7:36:31 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball ("Huckabee is the bastard child of Lou Dobbs and Pat Robertson." - Jonah Goldberg)
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Winner: Mitt, Rudy a close second.


2,046 posted on 01/24/2008 7:37:32 PM PST by Quicksilver
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Todd: Romney's best performance. Not attacked, looked comfortable.

Mathews thinks Mitt won.

2,110 posted on 01/24/2008 7:41:01 PM PST by Quicksilver
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I won’t vote for any of them.


2,153 posted on 01/24/2008 7:43:59 PM PST by omega4179 (Being a Clinton means being able to lie every day and get away with it)
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Goodnight all!


2,182 posted on 01/24/2008 7:45:47 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (I was officially Fredbacker1 but now officially Romney1 and still can't change my name)
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Total questions asked of candidates (my count, but I had a few beers during the debate)

Mitt.....12

Mac......12

Rudy.....10

Huck..... 8

Paul..... 5

2,190 posted on 01/24/2008 7:46:23 PM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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Romney won hands down. Presidential, confident, honest, and itching to bury Hideous Rodent Clinton. No one else came close. Romney/Paul 2008


2,307 posted on 01/24/2008 7:56:01 PM PST by Binstence (Live Freep or Die)
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The way that the MSM continues to form their questions and continues to spin their questions so that however the GOP answers them, the GOP looks bad every time is so aggravating!


2,464 posted on 01/24/2008 8:14:38 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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The winner of tonight's debate was the Republican Party. I don't know whether the campaigns agreed before the debate to be civil and to make the overall debate an example of our maturity and intelligence in contrast to the Democrats' stupidity. Whether there was some previous collaboration or whether each candidate reached that decision independently, they did a very good job. I didn't see the Democrat debate, but the reports are of the candidates becoming more and more negative towards one another. Most of us have seen the clip of Hillary and Obama arguing about Bill Clinton's participation in the campaign. There will be no similar YouTube moment coming from this debate.

Because I'm now supporting a candidate who's above 1% in the polls, no one is going to believe my picking of winners and losers. I will make some comments about each of the candidates in order of right to left across the stage.

Mike Huckabee - Mike Huckabee did very well. For the most part, he seemed more genuine tonight. In some previous debates, he seemed to be putting on an act. The "down-home, country preacher act" was fun to watch, but no one really wanted to elect a stage act to the presidency. He seemed a little silly and contrived when he talked about Mitt Romney spending his own money. To a lesser extent, his comments about Chuck Norris were the same way although they fit the situation more appropriately. Otherwise, he struck a good tone. He helped himself with Republicans by asking Mr. Romney about the Second Amendment. He used some populist language, but he did a good job of not sounding like a big-government populist or someone who was playing on envy for the rich. He did a good job of defending the Fair Tax. As I watched tonight, I could see myself voting for Mr. Huckabee happily enough if he won the nomination.

Ron Paul - Ron Paul's challenge in making himself look good and not making the debate into a circus is to express his differences in foreign policy without sounding like Cindy Sheehan. He met that challenge tonight. He came across as the long time budget-hawk and liberty-hawk who happens to have a very different view on some, not all, aspects of foreign policy. Because the differences on those aspects of foreign are so stark and the issues are so important, those of us who disagree with him cannot support him for the nomination. However, we're still glad to have people like him in the party because he has spent so many years standing for liberty, for financial responsibility, and for the Constitution.

Rudy Giuliani - Rudy Giuliani is saying the right things at this time, but many conservatives and many Republicans still do not trust him. He had a pretty good debate. He has money to spend, and he could still win Florida. If he wins Florida, he could still win the nomination. He certainly doesn't have that aura of inevitability that he had in the past, and without that aura, he's not the same candidate. He's not a guy who helps himself towards the nomination just by avoiding any major gaffes. Instead, he's a guy who needs something to happen to put himself ahead of other candidates, and I didn't see anything that gave him that advantage. When all is said and done, he's still the guy who said that private citizens shouldn't own handguns, the guy who opposed the partial birth abortion ban, and the guy who's made several public appearances in drag. Maybe none of those things alone would sink his candidacy, but they hurt him with Republicans who now feel that they have choices. Mr. Giuliani had a good debate, but he didn't advance his chances very much.

John McCain - John McCain generally said the right things also. None of us forget that he served his country well in Vietnam. He gained more from that personal history tonight because he managed to go through an entire debate without mentioning his service (that I noticed). He said the right things, but the question that I couldn't put out of my mind was, "Can I believe him?" His history of playing to the liberals, the Democrats, and the media hurts him with conservatives and Republicans no matter how well he answers the questions. I can't remember the quote that Tim Russert asked about early in the debate, but if he really said what he denied, that answer could haunt him. He clearly had no idea what Ron Paul was asking him, and his attempt to bluff around the question was as transparent as that of a sixth-grader trying to explain a school book that he failed to read. The early focus on spending helped John McCain build bridges to conservatives, but nothing he said or did made me trust him.

Mitt Romney - Mitt Romney always speaks well, and the lack of confrontation either with the other candidates or the moderators kept him from appearing at all flustered. He did a good job answering the Second Amendment question from Mike Huckabee, and he deflected the Mormon issue very well. In the third segment, they seemed to be asking him more questions in an attempt to trip him. The result was that he seemed to get more attention than the other candidates. That attention may help him. Some people won't believe him no matter what he says, and some amount of anti-Mormon bigotry will always exist. In spite of these things, Mr. Romney did what he needed to do in the debate. If he's truly ahead in Florida, he's likely held that lead. If he needs to make up a few more points on Mr. McCain, he may have helped himself just slightly.

Bill

2,524 posted on 01/24/2008 8:25:09 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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Why did they pull the article about Mitt saying he didn’t “care for the voters?” I know what he meant, he mean he didn’t care if the voters knew how much he contributed to his campaign but he cared about the guys on the stage knowing.


2,550 posted on 01/24/2008 8:30:42 PM PST by fallingwater
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I thought that without any doubt, Romney made a good case for his candidacty tonight. Rudy? WTH is he doing up there?

Juan? “I don’t know where you got that quote” (to Russert) uh...maybe from YOU, Juan.

Huckaliar had some good points, but I just don’t like the guy.

Paul? Nuttier than a squirrel turd.


2,647 posted on 01/24/2008 8:59:17 PM PST by Grunthor (I'm voting for Flipper.)
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Although I am a contributor, I visit FR less and less these days.

I am SO tired of the sniping and lack of confidence in any of the quasi-conservative candidates (i.e.: Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee).

You have to play with the hand that is dealt to you, unless you can run or finance an alternative. O.K., so it sucks. But, Reagan is dead and the Republican party has been bought by the politically correct Washington elites.

Are you going to give in to Barack/Hillary, or support one of the less than conservative, outside the beltway, evils and keep an 'R' in office?

Flame away . . .
2,678 posted on 01/24/2008 9:07:06 PM PST by Brizick (Repeal the 17th Amendment)
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Glad to see Romney is gaining more supporters.

As I’ve been saying, he’s going to win Florida, the nomination, and the general election, and everyone should be able to see why now.


2,804 posted on 01/24/2008 9:44:00 PM PST by gruna
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I have not read this thread as it is so late but I am sure a tally is being run as to the pros and cons for each candidate and I want my 2 cents counted. I was proud of all of the candidates, best debate yet. Mitt Romney won on all counts and IMO was the winner Rudy Guilaini was outstanding and a person I would trust to watch my back in any situation. He is smart, loyal, patriotic and energetic. Ron Paul, bless his heart, says what he means and means what he says. I just do not agree much with his conclusions. Mike Huckabee did the best job I have seen from him to date. He spoke up for his faith and the freedom of religion which belief transfers to Mitts religion as well. John McCain could not help unloading on Rumsfeld about Iraq and that always makes him seem petty and vindictive. He was good otherwise but came in last IMO. Any of these Republican candidates, including Ron Paul, would make a better president than any of the three socialist, cut and run, democrats running for the office.
2,927 posted on 01/24/2008 10:25:29 PM PST by mountainfolk (God bless President Bush)
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There's only one truly consistent Reagan pro-life conservative left in this race:



2,963 posted on 01/24/2008 10:40:59 PM PST by EternalVigilance (For America's Revival - Alan Keyes 2008 - "Alan, you stood tall." - Ronald Reagan)
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"Robert McCain: maybe I don’t know enough about it, but I’ve not seen any help whatsoever [for my son among conservatives]"

She's there to beg for "help" for her son? Maybe she "doesn't know enough about it"? The sophisticated Roberta McCain? The cultured elitist with her patrician son? The world-traveller? Since when was she fluffy and confused?

I can't believe McCain has his mother pulling this stunt on C-Span so that the McCain toadies in the press can bring it up during the debate. This is a blatant, Hillaryesque ploy for pity, in this case from older voters in Florida.

At least we didn't have to watch her cry on C-Span.

3,074 posted on 01/25/2008 1:01:03 AM PST by Tea in the Harbor (Bill Clinton is too tired for a third presidency and his wife can't handle the job without him.)
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My husband and I were rehashing last nights debate and I recalled something that caught my attention in particular. The gist being that Tim Russert asked Romney how he would campaign against the TWO Clintons. Romney answered that he would NOT. He would be running against Senator Clinton. Now that says that the MSM is acknowledging that the Clintons have a team running against individuals OBama and Edwards. I do not know of course what that media game means but it was not just randomly thrown out by Russert. I liked Mitts answer which I interpreted to mean that he was not going to put up with the Clinton s-—crap. It really was an informative debate and gave insight into all of the candidates.
3,124 posted on 01/25/2008 8:58:22 AM PST by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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Nice debate.
3,125 posted on 01/25/2008 9:06:39 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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As a Fredhead looking for a new candidate to latch on to Huckabee proved to me last night he is NOT THE ONE I would choose.

On the same day my Wife and I were pondering how to use our stimulus package tax rebate to stimulate the economy - Huckabee tells us in last nights debate that he thinks it would be better spent adding 2 lanes to a highway on the East Coast. Oh yea, now that’s a great way to stimulate the economy in fly-over country and out here on the West Coast - Not.


3,130 posted on 01/25/2008 9:15:08 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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