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McCain hit by Hammer on the Hill (Delay says he might sit it out)
The Hill ^ | January 18th | Jackie Kucinich

Posted on 01/21/2008 4:16:25 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

“If McCain gets the nomination, I don’t know what I’ll do,” DeLay said at the Capitol Hill Club, according to a source in the room. “I might have to sit this one out.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; anyonebutmccain; elections; hernandez; juanhernandez; mccain; tdelaymc; tomdelay
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To: BluH2o

I’m a Nam vet also and a retired Marine.

I respect those of you who express these sentiments, though I am inclined to go with whatever candidate the Republicans ultimately nominate. I liked Duncan Hunter, but that was then, this is now, and I’ll just wait and see what the convention brings.

As far as what Tom Delay thinks, I don’t much care. I thought Delay left Washington in disgrace and was among the cast of scummy actors whose antics helped cause the Republican party to lose control of the Congress. As far as I’m concerned, nothing he has to say is of interest to me unless it might be “I’m sorry I let the party down”. I won’t be influenced by anything he has to say about the forthcoming election.


101 posted on 01/21/2008 4:59:02 PM PST by mathurine
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To: SuperCapitanAmerica

We are. You are not. I go by what Tom Delay said as he was there.


102 posted on 01/21/2008 5:00:55 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: SuperCapitanAmerica
What happened here, did the board turn into Al-Jazeera??!?!

So, satisfy my curiosity...what name did you used to post under before SuperCapitanAmerica (capitan??? not captain???)

103 posted on 01/21/2008 5:00:56 PM PST by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
A lot of the replies on this thread demonstrate the nature of the coming (and, some would say, long-overdue) GOP civil war.

There are those who take the viewpoint that "RINO candidate (name) is still a better choice than Democrat candidate (name)." This type of thinking results in conservatives becoming thralls to a RINO oligarchy, much as the African Americans have been used by the Democrats for so many years. These voters are happy getting thrown a bone every once in a blue moon, while getting boned (pardon the pun) the rest of the time.

Those who take the opposite viewpoint know that, sometimes, in order to build something correctly, one must tear down the faulty existing structure and start building anew from the ground up -- a concept well-known to boot camp drill instructors, who must first tear down what 18 years of society has built before building a marine, a sailor, a solider.

I am in the second group. I'm tired of aiding-and-abetting the same old crap and never seeing any improvement. Sometimes it takes four years of pain and suffering in order for some people to finally acknowledge what the right course of action should be.

104 posted on 01/21/2008 5:01:17 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: ImpBill

We can say we’re mad as hell without ripping each other a new one and acting like general idiots.

Or better yet, we can help educate one another. Take a look at the links and the pic I’ve posted to various people.


105 posted on 01/21/2008 5:04:24 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: SuperCapitanAmerica
I’m not a Democrat, and if you want to just read posts that agree with your opinions why don’t you send emails to yourself while looking at the mirror?

It isn't what you're saying...it's how you say it. Most new posters take a slightly nicer approach when first posting. You've been making waves all day with your "RINO" talk on various threads with long time posters. Manners first!

106 posted on 01/21/2008 5:05:09 PM PST by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I spoke with a lot of conservatives recently and only one will vote for McCain. They were ex-military. McCain will lose in a landslide because the base will stay home.

Plus the man is nuts.

I will not vote for him and if we get a Democrat, so what. We’ve had them before, we’ll have them again. My ticket will go Libertarian or blank.


107 posted on 01/21/2008 5:06:13 PM PST by wireplay
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To: TommyDale

Considering how vocal that Tancredo’s been on the border, I don’t consider it an accident that he endorsed Romney.

I’ve seen others disagree with me, but that’s a little bit much.


108 posted on 01/21/2008 5:07:10 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Wwll, he got Roberts and Alito through. Not too shabby.


109 posted on 01/21/2008 5:07:31 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

We are in 100% agreement.


110 posted on 01/21/2008 5:09:40 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

What you speak if is precisely why I won’t vote for McCain.

One reason among many.

No matter how many times that AA’s vote D, the problems never get fixed. I refuse to vote R simply because ‘they’re not as bad as the other guy’.

I won’t use my vote to vote against the other guy when it’s across the aisle. But I will absolutely do so to McCain.

If liberal policies are going to be passed by a president, let a liberal president do it. We can rebuild.

4 years of carter got us 8 years of reagan. I can accept that again.


111 posted on 01/21/2008 5:10:46 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

A no-vote is a vote for hillary or the muslim. Remember that. Even a RINO is better than either of them.


112 posted on 01/21/2008 5:11:12 PM PST by txboss
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To: DLfromthedesert

Didn’t he also vote in favor of Ginsburg and Souter?


113 posted on 01/21/2008 5:12:06 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I will never vote for John McCain. If the GOP is foolish enough to nominate him, they can have him. I will not be supporting an amnesty loving, free speech chilling, big government Republican period end of story.


114 posted on 01/21/2008 5:12:49 PM PST by Allan Bartlett
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Ditto...


115 posted on 01/21/2008 5:13:05 PM PST by glasseye
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To: SuperCapitanAmerica

I used to be and I didn’t leave that party so I could vote for liberals from the “other” party.

I see you’re a noobie. Were you banned recently for liberal cheerleading?


116 posted on 01/21/2008 5:13:29 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: txboss

————A no-vote is a vote for hillary or the muslim.————

I’m willing to accept that. 4 years of carter got us 8 years of reagan.

If liberal policies are to be passed down by the president, let a liberal democrat destroy the country. It shouldn’t be a guy who’s supposed to be one of us!

If McCain gets the nom, passes all this liberal legislation, conservatives will never be taken seriously again. Reagan will be written off as a one time anomaly and McCain will be cast as the typical conservative in the liberal media.


117 posted on 01/21/2008 5:15:36 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (If McCain wins the nom, I'm voting democrat. Well! There's two liberals on my november ballot.....)
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To: CAluvdubya

Manners first!

I was attacked right away because I support McCain. Talk about manners.


118 posted on 01/21/2008 5:17:04 PM PST by SuperCapitanAmerica
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To: cripplecreek

“The GOP has deserted the base and the next president will be a democrat.”

Several conservative candidates have been in the primaries, but attracted few votes. (Near as I can remember, those candidates were members of the GOP.)

Therefore, I would say the primary voters deserted the conservative GOP candidates.

It is therefore more logical to blame the voters. Florida Jan. 29th and California Feb. 5th will be Republican voters only in the GOP side of the primary.

That ought to give folks a clear look at the sentiments of the majority of GOP voters.

More votes matters. I can’t call immediately to mind the universally agreed definition of “the base.”

Back during the Reagan conservative era, it was widely recognized he showed people which ideas worked best for the economy, and against communism.

He convinced people, he converted moderates, independents, democrats to his way of thinking. He taught. He reminded. He showed examples. He didn’t call people names.

Conservatives seem to have completely lost common sense, replacing mature civility and persuasion, with adolescent name calling. And thereby converting nobody, but repelling many.

So if you want things to wind up being more conservative, go out and persuade your neighbors and friends why conservative ideas are the best. Convince them to vote conservative (usally means Republican)

Even if you think they are stupid, your chances of getting them to vote the way you want is to hold your tongue, refrain from calling them stupid.

Who knows? They might even vote conservative several times in a row, after your friendly and persuasive nudge to do so the first time.


119 posted on 01/21/2008 5:17:34 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Oh, come on. You would actually vote for the evil witch? At least vote for the libertarian or independent if you can’t vote for the Republican nominee.


120 posted on 01/21/2008 5:17:49 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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