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Ask Yourself: What Your Kid's Future Is Going To Look Like In A Balkanized America.
VetsCoR ^ | January 20, 1950 | A Navy Vet

Posted on 01/21/2008 4:22:50 AM PST by A Navy Vet

Does anyone still think that we the people have any real influence on the self-serving interests of our own Federal government? If you believe so, please don't bother to read further.

You need not be a political junkie to see that every time Congress is in session, it takes away more and more of your inherent rights with their socialist programs. I'm not going to preach to this choir, because I know the readers of this forum are probably THE most politically and socially astute persons on the Internet.

But I do have one question for you beyond the rhetoric that the candidates espouse:
What is their stand on "illegal immigration", and what is their stand on legal immigration?

Yes, I realize they are two separate issues but within the larger concept of the direction our Nation is taking, we must consider the numbers of legal immigrants allowed in. We can't be open to the entire world if we are to maintain our hard-earned standard of living.

Illegal immigrants have no standing; they should be deported if we had the resources. While most are good upstanding contributors, their culture also brings in to our homeland much murder, rape, theft, child abuse, drugs , gangwarfare, et al.

They flood our prisons; they flood our emergency rooms to the point of closing; they suck more of your tax dollars through "anchor babies" with food-stamps, welfare, and other social services. They depress property values; they build ghettoes. They build hate and distrust.

Here in the Los Angeles area of Southern Calif, "illegals" eat a huge part of the budget. Even the liberal Los Anglese Times has admitted the negative effect.

From what I read, it is happening more and more around Middle-America. We tried to warn you...but that's another story.

So what are we to to about the MASSIVE influx of foreign cultures that can't work along side our own and take your jobs at a slave rate makes you have to doubleup on work for your with family?

What are we to do about 25% of Hispanic prisoners in our jails? What are to do with the same Mexicans who every day kill our citizens on our highways and rape and murder our women and children? Don't believe me - got stats.

We may not be able to stop every drunken Mexican crashing into and killing an American family on the road, much like we can't stop every stupid US citizen, but at least that citizen had a right to be here in the first place. Like we need MORE criminals.

Here are my solutions:

Federal: The NAFTA agreement that is allowing Mexican truckers into our highways should be stopped, yesterday. Other so-called "free trade" agreements should be reviewed and amended to be "fair trade".

State: The Arizona Court of Appeals decision requiring employers to VERFIFY the legality of their workers is now the law of the land. I read every day that illegal Mexicans are moving out of Arizona and on to other states or even just going back to Mexico. You want solutions? Here it is. Since this decision was not overturned, it is having a huge decrease on the influx of illegal aliens into Arizona. We've all known...take the jobs away - they stay away.

Here's my suggestion: As we killed the McCain/Kennedy Shamensty Bill giving a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens, we should now build a coalition to support any city, county, or state that wants to pass the same type of laws as Arizona. There is another state working towards similar employer penalties - Louisiana I believe. There are also a number of cities that have written into their laws that they would not be a "sactuary" city.

Hammer the employers who knowingly hire illegals and the demand will dry up. Oh no, we will be doomed because there won't be anyone to fill those low paying jobs. Bullshit. They were done before, they will be done again.

This movement is growing. If you care about the cohesiveness our our country, American jobs, American continuity, this type of local effort could be the answer. It's working in Arizona as I type this.

What say you?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; balkanism; illegalimmigration; immigration; multiculturalism; vetscor
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1 posted on 01/21/2008 4:22:52 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet

The rule of law is about to be undone - let’s just have the war while we are young enough to fight it...


2 posted on 01/21/2008 4:26:23 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: A Navy Vet

bump for later review and it would be good to source the following:

>Even the liberal Los Anglese Times has admitted the negative effect


3 posted on 01/21/2008 4:26:50 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: A Navy Vet
I think you've hit a nerve that should resonate w/ all of us:

What type of a country are we going to leave to our children and grandchildren? Decisions we make this year, more than any year in the past, will vibrate through generations to come.

4 posted on 01/21/2008 4:32:40 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Perhaps a fight won’t be necessary, but a split is definitely coming. There will be two Americas in the not too distant future, the south and mid-upper west and the northeast and coasts. The ideological divide is too wide to maintain and nothing any President can say will change what’s coming. The American identity is all but gone and the ideals that made us great in the past have been decimated. Pay very close attention to the 2nd Amendment battles coming as I believe that will be the trigger point.


5 posted on 01/21/2008 4:36:19 AM PST by mek1959
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To: A Navy Vet

If alive today, I wonder what President Davis would have to say about your article.


6 posted on 01/21/2008 4:41:44 AM PST by central_va
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To: A Navy Vet

What seems to be overlooked constantly on this issue is the negative progression into our Society that is accomplished by the tolerance of the Illegal Society. They may take the lower paying jobs that most of our children start with, were they available and not occupied by Illegals, but they also progress into Industries important to the livelihoods of many a tradesman. They remain outside of, not inclusive within our Society. IOW they don’t assimilate, they take, and take. The monies they make are sent outside of our system, and means to avoid taxation by dealing within their non assimilated communities, thus off the radar so-to-speak is rampant. Thus we have this non participation in funding yet maximum participation in taking.

I have to get offline, so this was not edited...Sorry.


7 posted on 01/21/2008 4:41:59 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

If there is trouble, let it be while I can do something about it, so that my son can live in peace.


8 posted on 01/21/2008 4:44:17 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: A Navy Vet

The future is here already.


9 posted on 01/21/2008 4:44:46 AM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
The rule of law is about to be undone...

I rule of law will be replaced by imperio de la ley. The Dem and Repub leadership want the illegal invaders for different reasons: They do not want to oppose them fro political expediency, the dems want voters (who cares if it destroys the democrat party), the repubs want bodies paying for SS and Medicare.

10 posted on 01/21/2008 4:50:30 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Voting Republican while I live and Democrat...after I die)
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To: P8riot
f there is trouble, let it be while I can do something about it, so that my son can live in peace.

Trust me, you won't be by yourself....

11 posted on 01/21/2008 4:51:44 AM PST by central_va
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To: central_va

Oh, I know.


12 posted on 01/21/2008 4:54:02 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: A Navy Vet

IMHO, this was predictable with the Income Tax. The final consequence of the tax is that 5% of the population pays 60% of the taxes. That 5% both own and run the government. Their choice for President is Hillary...she owns all their dirt.This, IMHO, was the ultimate reason for the Income Tax. We sold the country to them.


13 posted on 01/21/2008 4:56:30 AM PST by mo
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To: Pietro

It’s not ours to leave to our children; it was removed from us in 1965. Our best gift to our children is a foriegn language and a passport.


14 posted on 01/21/2008 5:07:47 AM PST by glide625
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To: A Navy Vet

bttt


15 posted on 01/21/2008 5:09:36 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: A Navy Vet

Personally, I think we might be better off balkanized than socialist.


16 posted on 01/21/2008 5:10:30 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: mek1959

The South shall rise again.


17 posted on 01/21/2008 5:11:54 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: glide625

Maybe even as far back as 1929 and the vaunted FDR. Before FDR, federal spending was 4% of GDP. Now, federal spending is 18% and will soon be in the 20’s. The nanny state is in full force and scaring the heck out of business.


18 posted on 01/21/2008 5:12:43 AM PST by mek1959
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To: A Navy Vet

My number one issue is immigration.Winning the war on terror is a mute point if we dont have a country.It is being sold out from the powers that be.


19 posted on 01/21/2008 5:13:33 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

I think you’re right. That’s why the 2nd Amendment will be the flash point. Too many southern boys won’t give them up if the feds try to restrict them.


20 posted on 01/21/2008 5:13:58 AM PST by mek1959
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