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Abortion debate continues, 35 years later
The Coeur d'Alene Press ^ | Friday, Jan 18, 2008 - 10:29:01 pm PST | SUZANNE JACOBSON

Posted on 01/20/2008 12:29:36 PM PST by narses

Pro-life legislation continues to be proposed by lawmakers

COEUR d'ALENE -- Roe vs. Wade was decided Jan. 22, 1973, but for many the decision that guaranteed a woman's right to choose abortion was not so final.

The debate continues 35 years later.

Every year, pro-life legislation arises, leaving debate framers on both sides to reinvigorate one of the most divisive topics in American life.

This year's possible legislation is, for now, confidential, said Kerry Uhlenkott, Right to Life Idaho's legislative coordinator. Nor could she say who is sponsoring possible legislation.

Rep. Bob Nonini, R-Coeur d'Alene, introduced a bill last year that would have made coercing a woman to have an abortion illegal. It failed.

Tim Hunt, North Idaho field organizer for Planned Parenthood of the Inland Northwest, said his camp opposes the bill.

"We simply think the government should stay out of the bedrooms of America," he said.

Hunt said he heard rumors of a new bill that would define personhood as starting at conception. Hunt called that a "thinly-veiled attempt" at illegalizing abortion.

"We're not pro-abortion. What we are is pro-choice. Anything that interferes with that is likely to raise our hackles," Hunt said.

New statistics from the Guttmacher Institute say that abortion rates are falling. In 2005, the institute reported that 1.21 million abortions were performed. This number was down from 1.31 million in 2000.

While about 6 percent of pregnancies in Idaho ended in abortion during 2005, 93 percent of Idaho's counties had no abortion provider in 2005. Nationwide, 19 percent of pregnancies during 2005 resulted in abortions.

Nancy Tefft, executive director of Open Arms Pregnancy Care Center in Coeur d'Alene, has been facilitating post-abortion groups for 10 years.

"Looking at women I know that have been very wounded by abortion, I think that was a sad day," she said about Jan. 22, 1973.

But, "we still want to be here to support women in whatever place they find themselves," Tefft added.

There are no abortion providers in North Idaho, and no Planned Parenthood clinics. There is a Right to Life Coeur d'Alene, which could not be reached for comment.

Area women who choose to have an abortion usually travel to Spokane, said Jet Tilley, director of public policy for Planned Parenthood of the Inland Northwest.

"It's really important for Planned Parenthood that people understand our conversations primarily don't have anything to do with abortion," she said.

Much of their energy, Tilley said, is spent expanding access and information about contraception and advocating for laws that support choice.

"The Supreme Court has always upheld that women's health must be the paramount consideration," Tilley said. "The latest findings have not stuck to that standard."

A federal ban on abortions during the second trimester of pregnancy was upheld in April 2007. Planned Parenthood subsequently denounced the decision, saying it made no allowances for women's health.

Right to Life in 1976 celebrated the Hyde Amendment, which prohibited federal funding for abortions. Uhlenkott said the amendment has "saved over one million lives."

A recent pro-life victory provides that women "at least be offered" the ability to see an ultrasound of their unborn child. Uhlenkott said women who view ultrasounds are more likely to cancel their abortion.

"There's a real mood in this country to protect the rights of the unborn," Uhlenkott said. "I think it's just a matter of time before (Roe vs. Wade is) overturned."

Planned Parenthood works to limit unintended pregnancies, the number of which Tilley said is a key indicator to how many abortions occur.

Decreasing unintended pregnancies and sexual education can be as controversial as abortion. Those on the pro-life side often support abstinence until marriage.

Uhlenkott said she advocates "striving for a good family life." Promoting interaction between children and parents helps promote abstinence, she said.

According to Tilley, "What we know about abstinence-until-marriage education is that it doesn't work."

Tilley said birth control use is up. And the pro-choice movement celebrated in 2006 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's approval of the emergency contraceptive's over-the-counter sale.

According to the Guttmacher Institute, 86 percent of women who receive abortions are unmarried. According to Open Arms Pregnancy Center, more than 80 percent of relationships terminate after an abortion.

For Uhlenkott, abortion is akin to slavery. "This isn't a thing. It's a human being that's being killed."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: abortion; anniversary; plannedparenthood; roevwade; scotus
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1 posted on 01/20/2008 12:29:37 PM PST by narses
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2 posted on 01/20/2008 12:30:05 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

This debate will never end. As long as you know that from the moment of conception what is developing is a human being that will be born as an innocent infant, there is no reason for abortion (99.5% of the time)other than selfishness. The future of any society is it’s children, and when you allow them to be slaughtered on a whim, your society has no future.


3 posted on 01/20/2008 12:36:01 PM PST by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: narses
I don't see RvW being overturned unless it is thrown back to the states (highly doubtful). The pro-choicers will fight any of it tooth and nail. I read an interesting discussion on that possible scenario on the Eastern Orthodox newgroups (orthodox generally oppose abortion). In essense, they were saying if it is thrown back to the states, women would just go to another state to procure an abortion or use the/an unsafe, illegal method. I suspect some are still going the illegal route as it is.

Good to see more people becoming pro life though.

4 posted on 01/20/2008 12:36:05 PM PST by Aliska
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To: narses

And God help those who murdered all those innocent souls.


5 posted on 01/20/2008 12:37:36 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever fully realize.)
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To: narses

If Rudy gets the GOP Nomination, the Abortion Debate will be over.


6 posted on 01/20/2008 12:37:37 PM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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Rudy is polling lower than Ron Paul — he is toast.


7 posted on 01/20/2008 12:38:39 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

Some of us were raised on the debate. I remember it being the hot topic for research papers and debate class in HS. This is an irreconcilable issue.


8 posted on 01/20/2008 12:49:40 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I disagree. It was settled law for almost all of modern history, abortion on demand is very new and very evil.


9 posted on 01/20/2008 12:52:24 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses
I don't recall a debate on Abortion. Not one that mattered, anyway.

The whole "debate" took place in the offices of nine men in Washington DC, and at the end, 7 of them overruled the other 2 and that was that.

The opinions of tens of millions of citizens were irrelevant, as were the laws of states that outlawed it. What was a crime the prior day was converted into a "right" the next day.

From that point on, the debate had ended.

10 posted on 01/20/2008 12:59:55 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Bingo.


11 posted on 01/20/2008 1:00:40 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: cubreporter

Exactly.


12 posted on 01/20/2008 1:04:21 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: cubreporter
And God help those who murdered all those innocent souls.

Amen. I have family members who disclosed abortions after-the-fact. Years later I still grieve.

13 posted on 01/20/2008 1:22:38 PM PST by highimpact (Abortion - [n]: human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: narses

This debate, the abortion debate, has so far clouded at least four presidential elections — and to NO EFFECT, whatsoever! And, guess what? It’s back again! And again, to no purpose!


14 posted on 01/20/2008 1:32:08 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: highimpact

And perhaps they do too inside. It’s a terrible, terrible thing. Horrendous and actually there are no words for it. All I can remember is a photo I saw of the Blessed Mother holding a baby in the palm of her hands with tears coming down her cheek. It was powerful.


15 posted on 01/20/2008 1:32:59 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever fully realize.)
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To: narses
According to Tilley, "What we know about abstinence-until-marriage education is that it doesn't work." Eighty percent. of the abortions are obtained by unmarried women because of abstenence education? Sounds like she is saying that. More likely, contraception doesn't work except for the morning after pill which is a method of abortion. Black leaders need to wake up: their community is not growing either in percentage of numbers or wealth, because the men won't marry or stay married to black women. Not only is bastardy a plague, but STDs are spreading rapidly, encouraged by the notion spread by Planned Parenthood and society in general that "free love" is a viable option.
16 posted on 01/20/2008 1:45:39 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: cubreporter

Furthermore, it is a highly invasive procedure, Can’t be physically pleasant for the mother. Many of the illegal abortions before RV. Wade were performed by family doctors in their offices and it is NOT minor surgery.


17 posted on 01/20/2008 1:55:06 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: cubreporter
And perhaps they do too inside. It’s a terrible, terrible thing.

No "perhaps" about it. I know they are suffering. How could they not?

18 posted on 01/20/2008 2:01:22 PM PST by highimpact (Abortion - [n]: human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: highimpact

http://www.myspace.com/emmettgrayson I hope you’ll click and listen.


19 posted on 01/20/2008 2:08:07 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Continental Soldier

I’m not sure I get your point. Do you think it should just be ignored or are you saying that politics won’t solve the problem?


20 posted on 01/20/2008 2:10:31 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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