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WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? (DEFEAT MCCAIN)
1/20/08 | Self

Posted on 01/20/2008 5:04:20 AM PST by Nextrush

I said go for Fred in South Carolina because I wanted to give Thompson a chance to mix this race up.

But Fred fell short now and the main concern of mine is to beat McCain.

There's a media orgasm-coronation going on right now and we have to have straight heads to stop it.

Lets not infight and let trolls lead us atray.

Here's a serious look at how to defeat a man who's a virtual Democrat and a traitor to the conservative cause in this country.

McCain-Feingold made the First Amendment into toilet paper.

The law was designed to protect incumbent politicians by keeping little candidates from getting outside support to defeat entrenched politicians.

And we all have a list of what McCain has done to help Democrats and hurt Conservatives from the Gang of Fourteen on down.

Straight heads must prevail at this point.

I've heard two guys on two different networks (David Gergen on CNN, Bill Sammon of the "Washington Examiner" on Fox News) point out that Thompson is a "friend" of McCain. Sammon suggested Fred will endorse McCain.

That should settle the issue I brought up some weeks ago about Fred being a McCain front if it pans out.

Fred can't do much if he stays in right now but hold Tennessee which if he wants to run there on February 5th makes me happy enough.

McCain must be defeated by tactical voting.

I only hope Giuliani doesn't collapse from the media wave before we reach New York on February 5th. Its a winner take all primary and the only candidate who can take out McCain there is Rudy.

In New York and New Jersey on February 5th, I'm certain Rudy is the anti-McCain vote to defeat him there. You have to vote Rudy there to stamp out the McCain Mutiny.

Romney will contest Florida so vote for him there on the 29th to stop McCain.

Huckabee at least campaigned against McCain in the last few days in South Carolina.

The return the illegals pledge he signed along with on-air (MSNBC) criticism of McCain-Feingold I saw was clearly aimed at McCain.

But yes Huckabee always says nice things about McCain.

Maybe that's just his style.

If Huckabee is a shill for McCain, lets make Huck prove it by giving him wins and delegates in states where he is strongest. On February 5th, that will be Oklahoma, Alabama and or course Arkansas.

Back to Romney, he's the obvious choice in Utah, Colorado and Massachusetts on February 5th.

Romney should probably contest Missouri so you know who to vote for there.

Wouldn't it be nice if the native son of Missouri who's name inspired mine finally came out of the closet for Romney?

Is he fiddlin around while the Republican Party burns?

Emporer McCain and his media buddies are torching the place right now.

Focus your vote in the next few weeks on the strongest possible candidate in your state to defeat McCain.

Its straight heads time and I won't attack Huck, Romney or Rudy at this point because I'm not in the McCain helping business.

The grim task is to knock McCain down so hopefully a conservative alternative can rise up (that would probably be Romney). (ALL CRITICS CAN SHUT UP AT THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU ONLY HELP MCCAIN BY TRASHING ROMNEY)

But I will accept the other two as alternatives.

Get real, don't let the beltway crowd steal the Republican Party away from us.

THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE IS MCCAIN.

Guys like former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and Alexander Haig, the Rockefeller Republicans are in the McCain camp.

Also President Bush's friend, former Homeland Security Secretary and PA Governor Tom Ridge is on the McCain bandwagon.

On Friday, by the way, Ridge called "waterboarding torture. That echoes the McCain position of course.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: amnesty; giuliani; huckabee; johnmccain; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; romney; rudygiuliani
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To: conservit
Both Romney and Thompson have changed to the right and I can accept that - and both of them are far better than Hillary and Obama. I also have changed my mind on issues. While Romney has not been among my top choices, I seen no reason to therefore destroy his record as has often been done.

None of the other GOP candidates pose a threat close to what McCain poses. A vote for McCain in the primaries, is a vote for Hillary and Obama. On concerns regarding McCain's mental health alone, he is likely to lose in the general election. While he is MSM candidate in the primaries, he will not be in the general election.

121 posted on 01/20/2008 6:34:57 AM PST by Dante3
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To: don-o

That’s one way of seeing it.

I don’t want to walk away from the GOP but I’m going for some resolution here short of McCain.

A senator is clearly a losing candidate based on the last 30 years of elections for sure.


122 posted on 01/20/2008 6:36:31 AM PST by Nextrush (MCCAIN IS THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE, STOP HIM AT ALL COSTS)
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To: All

6. From complacency to apathy;

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE (I’ll vote for anyone with an R)

7. From apathy to dependence;

THIS IS WHAT WE WILL LEAVE OUR CHILDREN


123 posted on 01/20/2008 6:37:15 AM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: kindred

If it’s McLame/Clinton Inc, millions will stay home or vote third party.


124 posted on 01/20/2008 6:37:54 AM PST by kjo
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To: conservit

But don’t you think that that was because it fit in Mass.? I suspect his weakness of changing positions on issues works in our favor. If the base gets fired up enough ala Harriet Miers and immigration he’ll bend to us. McCain on the otherhand will just call us hacks.


125 posted on 01/20/2008 6:38:23 AM PST by Round 9
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To: central_va
A german MG43 practically blew his arm off in 1945. Duh.

My bad, MG43 should be MG42.

126 posted on 01/20/2008 6:39:35 AM PST by central_va
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To: Nextrush

Excellent analysis. I was Fred supporter up until last night when he fell far short of expectations. His own expectations as well. Staying in the race at this point just gives McCain a leg up states he shouldn’t have a shot in. When you take the combined votes for Huck, Thompson and Romney it all adds up to McCain not having any business winning in South Carolina. Huckabee will fizzle as he runs out of Evangelicals leaving Romney, Guliani and McCain. I am now supporting Romney, the best of the three remaining.


127 posted on 01/20/2008 6:40:41 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: submarinerswife
Protest noted. Hillary thanks you.

Sorry. You can work yourself all into a tizzy, but it has no impact on me.

128 posted on 01/20/2008 6:41:49 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Jim Noble
What YOU don't get about the loser rino/moderates is that they will never support one of yours for anything.

...where do you go from here?

One name...Reagan!

I go to fight for conservatism in the Republican party. What do think happened in 1994 when "The Contract With America" was developed? Remember in 1996 when there was all this talk about abolishing all these useless departments and how the dems were screaming? What have the Conservatives done since then? My point is why lose by giving in, instead of fighting. It's like taking the third strike. You never even give yourself a chance. Republican moderates are the bane of this party and need to just sit down and shut up and let the adults, who understand responsibilty and accountability run things!! More things get done and accomplished for the good of America when conservatives do what they say they'll do!

So where do I go from here? I go try to get conservatives elected within the Repub party, instead of allowing the moderates to think they matter, because we all know they don't. Infact, they are detrimental to this country because they NEVER accomplish anything except bad government!

ie..McPainintheass/Findgold

129 posted on 01/20/2008 6:42:05 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: HelloooClareece

Fred ran a “national” campaign that would have made Harold Stassen proud.

Never seen a worse effort.


130 posted on 01/20/2008 6:42:39 AM PST by kjo
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To: FReepapalooza

Dick Cheney, please answer the phone.

Your country needs you.


131 posted on 01/20/2008 6:42:47 AM PST by PalmettoMason (Ted Kennedy is "one of the most principled men I've ever met." Lindsay Graham)
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To: FReepapalooza

And how does eight years of Hillary help us?


132 posted on 01/20/2008 6:42:57 AM PST by Round 9
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To: Trueblackman
I refuse to vote for any of them now that Hunter is out, let the others run the nation into the ditch.

I understand your frustration because I'm very close to that same point myself. But there are degrees of evil and there are degrees of good, and except for Rudy I believe that any of the remaining Republican candidates are preferable to any Democrat still left in the race. But as I said earlier this morning, now that Fred is out of contention for all practical purposes the November election is guaranteed to be the most disastrous presidential election in the lifetime of any living American.

133 posted on 01/20/2008 6:42:57 AM PST by epow (Isn't it odd how the hardest working people seem to get all the lucky breaks?)
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To: Nextrush

Fred’s supporters have a mind of their own and are likely to split evenly among the other top 4 contenders.

I believe the real question will be what happens when Rudy loses Florida?

If we have Mitt, Mike, and John, how do Republican’s and Independents allocate their support in that scenario?


134 posted on 01/20/2008 6:43:06 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: John D

How could you forget McCain’s global warming nonsense and running around the stump with AL GORE’S running mate for a platform? ;-)


135 posted on 01/20/2008 6:43:24 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: NittanyLion

Actually, it’s pathetic that you will sacrifice your principls in an effort not to.


136 posted on 01/20/2008 6:44:13 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: submarinerswife

You’re making a mistake in backing McLame. Let Hitlery win...four years of her will make the country so conservative you won’t believe it.

We took the pain of Carter we can take Hitlery.


137 posted on 01/20/2008 6:45:07 AM PST by kjo
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To: Dante3
Similar questions were raised about McCain 8 years ago, non of them panned out. He has been one of Bush's biggest supporters on the war. He wasn't a big Rumsfeld fan, but his resolve for winning, never wavered.

He could have switched and became a Democratic hero, but he stuck with the Republicans.

He did oppose the tax cuts, because he wanted to cut spending as well. In hindsight, that wouldn't have been a bad thing. We got our butts kicked last year because of out of control spending.

138 posted on 01/20/2008 6:45:58 AM PST by conservit
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To: FJB2
And how does eight years of Hillary help us? Stop scaring them. They can't/won't answer your question.
139 posted on 01/20/2008 6:46:13 AM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: Nextrush

The obvious choice is Romney. I did that algebra months ago. It is nice to see others finally running through that equation again and coming up with the right answer too.


140 posted on 01/20/2008 6:47:13 AM PST by Spiff
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