Posted on 01/19/2008 6:06:01 AM PST by vikingd00d
No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.
With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.
With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled Conservative Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.
Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCains record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.
Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip partys in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?
How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCains political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCains whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.
Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook
McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.
McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.
Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!
McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled Conservative Administration actively advancing the Democrat Partys agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.
Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists McCain is going to have a tough foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is strong on Foreign Policy? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.
At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.
The Democrats won’t be laughing much this week. They are having a pretty ugly fight going on right now with Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton vs. the Obama campaign and a deeply divided Democrat caucus who half seem to back Obama and half supporting the her highness Hillary. Expect the fight to get even uglier this week culminating with a loss for Hillary.
Why....?
I am at a loss.
LOL!
I, too, voted for Crist. But, I didn’t get a tee shirt. I just got screwed and no kissing was involved!
Bill Crystal is an idiot.
The encyclopedia missed a few.
* Arizona
* California
* Colorado
* Connecticut
* Delaware
* District of Columbia
* Florida
* Kansas
* Kentucky
* Maine
* Maryland
* Massachusetts
* Nebraska
* Nevada
* New Jersey
* New Mexico
* New York
* North Carolina
* Oklahoma
* Oregon
* Pennsylvania
* Rhode Island
* South Dakota
* Utah
* West Virginia
* Wyoming
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Look at how much media attention was given to South Carolina, which has 24 delegates, versus Nevada, which has 34.
Romney is well ahead in delegates, but you’d never know that by all the fawning over McCain.
Of course he is! The MSM and some freepers don’t understand that you can still be someone’s friend, and NOT endorse him. The best of friendships are not blind, and there’s no way I can see Fred endorsing a friend whose so ideologically different.
As a pro-life libertarian, not a social conservative per se, I would vote for Rudy...twice...before voting for Huckster. Rudy can not win without the socon support behind him. Huck can not win without the economic conservative, limited Gubmint support behind him. Conservatism is hard. Liberalism is easy.
Yes in Massachusetts blind one where Mitt had the authority he preserved life and defend traditional marriage!
Do not confuse what Laws were in place before Mitt was in office or what was mandatory and the things the legislative done over ride his veto!
I’m jumping to Mitt if Fred hangs it up
You did indeed!
McCain is not high on my list, but I’d still prefer him to Hillary if it came down to it.
Seriously, do you think Fred will do better in a more moderate state like Florida than in South Carolina?
OK, we just disagree on that. I’m not saying none would go elsewhere, but I think if Huck disappeared Fred would pick up most of his votes. McCain actively dissed the religious right, Romney is a Mormon, and Rudi is pro-abortion.
As I said, Huck has as much ‘right’ to his voters as anyone. I just am trying to understand how South Carolina ended up going strongly for McCain, not boost Fred or run anyone else down.
Cheers and thanks for your opinion.
See my post # 2,328
Without his help I would not have been able to pull it out. By the way - wink wink - we all know who he will endorse when goes back to Hollywood, don't we (wink wink)
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