Posted on 01/19/2008 2:38:36 AM PST by america4vr
Islam watchers blogged all weekend about news that a secret archive of ancient Islamic texts had surfaced after 60 years of suppression. Andrew Higgins' Wall Street Journal report that the photographic record of Koranic manuscripts, supposedly destroyed during World War II but occulted by a scholar of alleged Nazi sympathies, reads like a conflation of the Da Vinci Code with Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail.
The Da Vinci Code offered a silly fantasy in which Opus Dei, homicidal monks and twisted billionaires chased after proof that Christianity is a hoax. But the story of the photographic archive of the Bavarian Academy of Sciences, now ensconced in a Berlin vault, is a case of life imitating truly dreadful art. It even has Nazis. "I hate those guys!" as Indiana Jones said.
No one is going to produce proof that Jesus Christ did not rise from the grave three days after the Crucifixion, of course. Humankind will choose to believe or not that God revealed Himself in this fashion. But Islam stands at risk of a Da Vinci Code effect, for in Islam, God's self-revelation took the form not of the Exodus, nor the revelation at Mount Sinai, nor the Resurrection, but rather a book, namely the Koran. The Encyclopaedia of Islam (1982) observes, "The closest analogue in Christian belief to the role of the Koran in Muslim belief is not the Bible, but Christ." The Koran alone is the revelatory event in Islam.
What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?
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Is that you Theresa...?
Thank you for the explanation. I can see that since Jesus was one of us, “he became man,” and that because he was rejected in his home town of Nazareth by the people he grew up with, it would not be a stretch for some to say or think the Jesus was not co-eternal with the Father. Furthermore, it is interesting that some followers of John the Baptist apparently believed that Jesus was not the Messiah. John the Baptist did not stop his preaching even after he baptized Jesus, and even though John the Baptist acknowledged His role. When John was in prison perhaps he was thinking about Isiah 61:1 “The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, because the LORD has anointed me; He has sent me to bring glad tidings to the lowly, to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives and release to the prisoners,”...
But studied reason can only conclude that Jesus is One and the same with the Father. Therefore Arius was not enlightened. Actually this specious reasoning was or is a common fault among heretics, IMO.
Mohammad slured his speech, coming out of that particular epiletic fit revelatory trance.
What he really said was, "Gabriel has six thousand rings.
I haven’t studied Arius in detail, but I think he was reacting to some earlier ideas and trying to avoid certain other heresies—and went too far in a different direction.
btt
And none of the discoveries will make a whit of difference to the rank-and-file muslim. There is abundant evidence that the Book of Mormon is full of anachronisms and that the Book of Abraham is not what it says, etc. But this doesn’t make a bit of difference to the faithful.
If you question the sanctity of the Gospels, what’s going to happen to you, hmm? You piss off a few deeply devout Christians. So what!
If you question the sanctity of the Qu’ran, what’s going to happen to you is this: an Al Qa’ida hit team shows up at your house and cuts off everyone’s head.
Choose your path.
I’m talking about the liberal scholars of the 18th and 19th century who were engaged in a project of discrediting the Bible. They gave the Muslims a pass and this was a time in which the Muslims, for the first time in hundreds of years, were no threat to the West.
Up until recently Muslims were considered powerless in terms of how they, as a political, cultual, and religous group, could influence world events.
Petroleum changed everything.
After rereading your post I realized I didn’t answer your statement correctly. Let me put it this way - only Christians in the 18th and 19th centuries were influencing world events. We in the West dominated the high seas, had large scale manufacturing of products such as steel, coal, and textiles (food was still by and large local produce). Aetheism was hand-in-hand with the anti-capitalist Marxist ideology. Anarchists, aetheists, and communists weren’t going to waste their “bullets” on something as backward as Islam.
bttt
Of course it’s false! It is a violent, militaristic invasive expansionist political movement cleverly disguised as a religion.
Unitarians with a bad attitude?
bump for stories the MSM can’t cover.
(sarcasm) why would FNC be terrified to report this...?(sarcasm off)
I always thought this was the way the King James Version was received. Granted, it is wonderful how all those older Greek, Aramaic, and Latin texts prefigured the true revelation, but God spoke directly in 1604-11.
My guess is that you mean Marcion, who also rejected the entire Old Testament and any validity to the Jewish religion or Christian texts which implied that Jesus honored the jewish prophets.
OK I get it,..virgins vs unspoiled raisins,..a simple semantic slip of meaning,...not a problem??
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