Posted on 01/19/2008 2:38:36 AM PST by america4vr
Islam watchers blogged all weekend about news that a secret archive of ancient Islamic texts had surfaced after 60 years of suppression. Andrew Higgins' Wall Street Journal report that the photographic record of Koranic manuscripts, supposedly destroyed during World War II but occulted by a scholar of alleged Nazi sympathies, reads like a conflation of the Da Vinci Code with Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail.
The Da Vinci Code offered a silly fantasy in which Opus Dei, homicidal monks and twisted billionaires chased after proof that Christianity is a hoax. But the story of the photographic archive of the Bavarian Academy of Sciences, now ensconced in a Berlin vault, is a case of life imitating truly dreadful art. It even has Nazis. "I hate those guys!" as Indiana Jones said.
No one is going to produce proof that Jesus Christ did not rise from the grave three days after the Crucifixion, of course. Humankind will choose to believe or not that God revealed Himself in this fashion. But Islam stands at risk of a Da Vinci Code effect, for in Islam, God's self-revelation took the form not of the Exodus, nor the revelation at Mount Sinai, nor the Resurrection, but rather a book, namely the Koran. The Encyclopaedia of Islam (1982) observes, "The closest analogue in Christian belief to the role of the Koran in Muslim belief is not the Bible, but Christ." The Koran alone is the revelatory event in Islam.
What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?
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Ephesians 3:10-11
His intent was that now, through the Church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, according to his eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord.
"...if he refuses to listen even to the Church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector." - Jesus Christ
Your difficulty here, I think, is that you view Christ’s Church as merely “a man or an institution.” The Church is Crist’s Bride. In another mystical image, the Church is the Body of Christ. Scripture likewise says the Church is “the pillar and foundation of the Truth.” This is no merely institutional view. It sjows that the Church is God’s instrument, in CHrist and throught he power of the Holy Spirit, for the salvation of the world.
“What about the 28 little boys that are promised to the true believer?”
Well, the Islams don’t mention that little fact much, since their religion also tells them to KILL HOMOSEXUALS.
Admitting that it is 100 virgins, 72 female and 28 male, would be in contradiction to their belief that homosexuality is wrong.
Besides, the essential element of the Koran is that one must not “think” while accepting the precepts that they read in the Koran.
Just like this. If one’s wife is unfaithful, one can kill her. One can also rape anyone else’s wife, without risk.
Homosexuality is punishable by death, only if you get caught, and you may kill anyone who tries to tell on you. (there are hundreds of ‘reasons’ in the Koran to use to be able to kill anyone you need to, should they want to do something to expose you)
A book similar to the Koran could be devised this way.
Take all the serial killer’s, rapists, murderers, thieves, liars, and write down all the excuses they use for justifying their crimes.
PUt them all in one book. TADA! The Koran.
Islam is the only religion, the only belief system in a supernatural deity that entices its adherents with the promise of a decidedly puerile, salacious, beastial, unspiritual nature, with the promise of an eternal afterlife of carnal indulgence without end.
No other religion resorts to the sort of whorish pandering in which Islam exhorts it followers by virtue of the basest of Man's primal urges.
Historically, religions have always looked upon the sex act as being of the Devil, as vile, unholy, unclean, as a necessary evil to be engaged in for the sake of procreation only.
Other religions describe heaven only in the most abstract, following the word of God deemed good, worthy enough as its own reward.
Simply put, this central tenet of Islam's belief system has always struck me as the very indication, proof of its wholly unGodly decidedly terrestrial nature I will ever need.
This is what the Catholic Church did when they cannonized the Bible.
John
The First Council of Nicaea in 325 was called by Constantine I. Justinian reigned from 527 to 565. He called a council too (Constantinople II, in 553) but it isn’t as famous or important as Nicaea I.
The Qu'ran states that Mohammad is the perfect man, whose life is to be emulated. And what was Mohammad, that most perfect of men? He was a bandit, who supported himself by robbing caravans and plundering cities. He was a murderer, who had a woman killed for making a poem which mocked him. He was a rapist, who took a captive Jewish girl to his bed after having her husband and relatives killed.
Islam rests upon the foundation of having its standard of perfection of conduct be that of a psychopath
You forget that they have a different definition of homosexuality than we do in the West. Essentially, its OK to be the “man” in the sexual act. Only the male playing the part of the female is considered to be a homosexual.
But as you pointed out, its just another “special clause” in Islam to allow the deviant to do as they wish.
Thanks FN and Ken21. Berosus, wasn’t there a story about a group of students in a Saudi school who threw their instructor out the window because he tried to discuss the authorship of the Quran?
thanks Perdogg.
Coast-to-coast AM 01.18.08.(2am EST)
Glenn Kimball will discuss history of the Koran
C2C AM | 01.19.08
Posted on 01/20/2008 1:41:22 AM EST by Perdogg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1956567/posts
Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
Asia times | 14 jan 08 | Spengler
Posted on 01/14/2008 3:56:52 PM EST by rellimpank
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953611/posts
My confidence was shaken in this article when the first thing that appeared at the link was:
“Did Jesus settle down in Japan?”
With sushi no doubt.
Maybe they were speaking of baseballer, Jesus Alou. But, I didn’t read the article to find out.
One of the big reasons I think Westerners don’t understand the Islamic world is that things like the law of excluded middle never quite reached that part of the world and we attempt to understand their politics in terms of our own philosophical heritage and get confused when it doesn’t make sense to us.
Cyberpunks too?
Wow!!! Thanks!!!
bump
Thanks. I’d lost track of that
To which Shaheed replies, I’ll take 72 white raisins instead,
Sheheed and the Raisinettes.
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