U.S. Carrier Kitty Hawk was in 28-hour Standoff with Chinese Submarine

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[Jackknife]

Ping!

[grey_whiskers]

This is why I live in Minnesota.

Cheers!

[bmwcyle]

[Calpernia]

>>>>. . . . and in Long Beach, CA

That was banned though, right?

(Thank you Duncan Hunter!)

Excerpt:

LONG BEACH NAVAL STATION

JANUARY 1999

COSCO BANNED FROM LONG BEACH

On October 17, 1998, H.R. 3616, the Fiscal Year 1999 Defense Authorization Act was signed by the President and became law.

Among the measures contained in the law is a provision, authored by Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), denying the President the authority to issue a waiver allowing the China Ocean Shipping Company (COSCO) to lease a terminal at the former Long Beach Naval Station.

According to a report by the House Task Force on Terrorism, “Although presented as a commercial entity, COSCO is actually an arm of the Chinese military establishment. COSCO provides services to the logistics and and transportation arms of the PLA’s [People’s Liberation Army] Navy and Air Force.”

[Calpernia]

The Chinese Navy must speak Spanish well enough to open ports in Mexico.

[Calpernia]

>>>.. let them buy rooskie technology

That is a problem too though. That is how they got their ‘cosmonaut’ trained and space program expanded.

http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2007/10/23/chinas-space-program.aspx
China’s Space Program

Excerpt:

We don’t really have a “space programme”, do we? After all, it’s not like we are pushing the technological frontiers and designing cutting-edge manned spacecraft.

No, to be more precise, we have an astronaut-training programme. Whoa, whoa, that is not true either. We didn’t train anyone; we paid the Russians to train our astronaut.

Oh, blow it all. That is still wrong. He is not an astronaut; he is a cosmonaut. The terms, according to Nasa, mean different things but, according to the Russians (and us), they mean the same thing.

Oh, this is all so confusing. All right, all right, let us start over again.

You might not know this, but there have been a lot of unhappy rumblings in Malaysian society regarding our paying the Russians buckets of money – the amount of which the Malaysian public is not 100% sure about – to train a bloke to be a spaceman (as accurate a definition I can think of, because he is a man and he is in space).

Yes, it is true. This wonderful achievement of the country – to find a handsome, clean-cut, healthy, intelligent fellow and pay someone else to get him into space – is being sneered at in some cynical quarters.

If you happen to be one of those people, I say to you: tsk, tsk, tsk. Where is your sense of patriotism? Where is your child-like optimism?

Going into space is a big deal. Just ask Dennis Tito and Mark Shuttleworth, two space tourists who did not have the luxury of buying Russian jet fighters to contra the costs of their cosmic flights. Coincidentally, one of the nasty things people are calling our Malaysian spaceman is “space tourist”.

For your information, unlike the two gentlemen mentioned above, our spaceman is not a tourist. No, no, no. He is going to do experiments, important experiments.

[CJ Wolf]

[Calpernia]

>>>And in a few years or decades when the Chinese Navy is operating in the Gulf of Mexico, how will we react?

They already do.

http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/chinainstitute/nav03.cfm?nav03=54382&nav02=43813&nav01=43092
China Oilfield secures deal in Gulf of Mexico

[Calpernia]

>>>I just believe it has been calculated, deliberate, treasonous.

I agree.

[catfish1957]

Were you asked to comment on my tag line?....I didn’t think so.

[Thunder90]

Iranian gunboats harassing US navy carriers in the Persian Gulf, Russian planes probing our borders/air defenses, and now this. Something big is in the works.

[Thunder90]

FYI... The Chinese invited in the Russians to look at the P3 as well.

[BIGLOOK]

I flew that same airframe as well as others, VQ-1 out of DaNang. I think I know the drill although the NVNAF didn’t want to capture our planes, they wanted to kill them.

That’s the essence of your argument. Just what the press told you to believe.

The press wasn't in the loop, whatever was written meaningless. The A/C can be sanitized in minutes and sensitive equipment disabled if not destroyed. Pitch and ditch drill......but they didn't have to ditch (which is not recommended for the EP-3, especially with a busted nose). The pilot did the right thing as did the crew. VQ-1 and VQ-2 lost too many planes and crews over the years, gathered a lot of experience in difficult, deadly encounters with our targets and this one was an unapologetic success. Bonus points for splashing the J-7.

Here's an important question none of you have asked; "Would the ChiComs have released the crew if they had concrete evidence of espionage?"

Survive, evade, resist and escape was the order that day. The aviators and crew managed the situation well even if they weren't able to evade. Cool it on the suicide BS.

[printhead]

From what I consider for me to be ill-informed while it was happening, my thoughts at the time were that if there were no women on board at that time, the rest of the crew would have ditched. Please feel free to freelighten me.

[LonePalm]

I'm with you on this one.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[TigerLikesRooster]

I know. I gave up on some local idiots in S. Korea.:-)

[SkyPilot]

What are you asking a citation for? That the EP-3 aircraft's contents, its equipment, and all the like was not TOP SECRET?

You need a TS clearance to even get in the aircraft.

[SkyPilot]

I don’t know if that was the pilot’s motivation, but it is fair to ask the question.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Resembles Iran’s actions in the Strait of Hormuz.