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1 posted on 01/14/2008 7:39:03 AM PST by Tolik
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2 posted on 01/14/2008 7:39:53 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Ghandi is a living reminder of the following comment;

‘The meek shall inherit the earth...exactly six feet of it to be precise.’


3 posted on 01/14/2008 7:42:09 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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I had never heard of Ghandi's treatise on "the Jews". I was awestruck -- and sickened -- by the following:

But if the Jewish mind could be prepared for voluntary suffering, even the massacre I have imagined could be turned into a day of thanksgiving and joy that Jehovah had wrought deliverance of the race even at the hands of the tyrant. For to the godfearing, death has no terror. It is a joyful sleep to be followed by a waking that would be all the more refreshing for the long sleep.

What an amazingly horrible irony that turned out to be....

4 posted on 01/14/2008 7:49:48 AM PST by r9etb
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VDH bump


5 posted on 01/14/2008 7:52:15 AM PST by fso301
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Ghandi and the Indians also had the fortune of having the British as their oppressors.


6 posted on 01/14/2008 7:53:49 AM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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No Jew would accept that kind of advice. Judaism is filled with a love of God and a praise of peace but it does not embrace pacifism and the counsel to offer up no resistance to evil. For Jews, the Holocaust is not something relegated to the category of ancient history; to the contrary, the threat of renewed genocide is very much a real fear. That is why Iran's attempts to gain possession of a nuclear bomb concerns the Jewish people a great deal. Arun Ghandi, therefore is the last person on earth who should lecture Jews to turn the other cheek. A true hope for peace upon the earth will only be realized only when evil is finally vanquished.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 01/14/2008 7:55:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Arun Gandhi better pray he never runs into me on a New York City street.


11 posted on 01/14/2008 8:00:50 AM PST by montag813
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BINGO!

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12 posted on 01/14/2008 8:02:13 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I can remember my mother talking about Ghandi...

She said that he would starve himself, in order to manipulate the British...

he would claim it was a “fast” for the Indian people..but he was really blackmailing England...

If he died during one of his “fasts” (which he did so often he was not well) the people would raise up and toss out the British..

he never intended to die though and he would let the British, convince him to stop his “fast” before that would happen...

That went on for years..he had the people so stirred up that the British were scared of uprisings and murders of the white population...

Ghandi was not a “holy” man, just a conman....


14 posted on 01/14/2008 8:03:40 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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The Gandhi grandson — Arun — impresses me as an incredibly stupid man, maintaining himself on his ancestor’s legacy. But perhaps he is a good fit on today’s university campus.


16 posted on 01/14/2008 8:06:36 AM PST by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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Hanson PUNK SLAPS that bitch Ghandi PING!


21 posted on 01/14/2008 8:21:37 AM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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I knew Ghandi drank his own urine, but I didn’t know he dipped his pen in it too.


23 posted on 01/14/2008 8:26:15 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity…

Breathtaking. I can only assume that Mr. Ghandi is willfully ignorant of the entirety of human history including that of his own country. How many Indian people have the Jews killed? How many have the Muslims killed?

Frankly the Jews aren't even the "biggest players" in violence within Israel itself. That is not the chorus of the international elite, of whom Mr. Ghandi is a member in good standing, but perhaps what is called for here is a little less groupthink and a whole lot more think. They might take his membership card away but it sure beats a gas chamber.

24 posted on 01/14/2008 8:47:23 AM PST by Billthedrill
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The quotation attributed to Arun Gandhi is a good example of the sloppy and absurd Leftist logic to which the people of today's world are constantly subjected.

Of course the people of the world--all decent people everywhere and for all time--regret the Nazi holocaust. We regret all the horrors of the past and present: slavery, torture, injustice, genocide, child abuse, murder, rape, plague, famine--the list goes on and on--the trans-Atlantic slave trade, torture and death for public amusement in ancient Rome, child labor in the Industrial Revolution, slavery in ancient Greece, surgical procedures without anaesthesia on prisoners in China, American persecution of Indians, English persecution of the Irish, the Inquisition, slavery and torture and death by stoning in contemporary Islamic theocracites, "honor killings", the genocides in Rawanda, the Bataan Death March and inhuman treatment of prisoners of war under Imperial Japan, the Pol Pot regime...the list goes on and on and on...

Of course decent people regret such horrors. We regret injustice and all the horrors of life.

But we must not feel guilty about such things. Guilt, like pain, is useful only if it spurs us to meaningful action. Otherwise, guilt is self-defeating.

The first thing we must do is insist on truth and honesty--something that Leftists find difficult, and often impossible, to do.

Then we must resolve to do everything we can to prevent such things' happening again in the future--although, considering the past as prophesy, we must face the truth about the difficult of implementing this resolve.

And we must resolve that we--as individuals--will never participate in the implementation of such horrors.

There is as much good as evil in human nature--probably more--but we must never overlook the potential for evil within ourselves. Only by acknowledging it and resolving never to allow the evil within ourselves to become manifest can we prevent it.

Mother Teresa said that she decided to go to Calcutta when she looked inside herself and saw a Hitler lurking there.

This monster is within all of us, and only by recognizing it and resolving to prevent its becoming manifest in our actions can we save ourselves--and others--from the potential for evil.

The price of goodness--like liberty--is eternal vigilance.

And murky, sloppy logic and mendacity encourage--rather than discourage--evil.

25 posted on 01/14/2008 8:56:40 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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Arun Gandhi, like his grandfather, is a political man, not a spiritual man - too wrapped up in the machinations of power and influence to be considered a credible commentator.


26 posted on 01/14/2008 9:02:28 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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The more things change, the more they stay the same.

As James D. Harris said on Charlie Sykes' show this morning, history doesn't really repeat, but it does rhyme.

28 posted on 01/14/2008 9:09:39 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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Nothing is more useless than a dead pacifist, except, perhaps, a live one.


34 posted on 01/14/2008 1:04:40 PM PST by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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btt


37 posted on 01/14/2008 4:46:40 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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There are some genuine religious pacifists around, but it seems that a political "pacifist" is someone who takes the moral high ground and bears no arms while running interference for whoever kills innocent people.

A chicken terrorist.

38 posted on 01/14/2008 8:16:17 PM PST by Salman
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