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The Democrats’ Fairy Tale
New York Times ^ | January 14, 2008 | William Kristol

Posted on 01/14/2008 1:53:21 AM PST by america4vr

Excerpt:Do Obama and Clinton and Reid now acknowledge that they were wrong? Are they willing to say the surge worked?

Op-Ed “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.” Thus spoke Bill Clinton last Monday night, exasperated by Barack Obama’s claim that he — unlike Hillary Clinton — had been consistently right (or wrong, depending on your point of view) on the Iraq war.

Now in fact, Obama has been pretty consistent in his opposition to the war. But Bill Clinton is right in this respect: Obama’s view of the current situation in Iraq is out of touch with reality. In this, however, Obama is at one with Hillary Clinton and the entire leadership of the Democratic Party.

When President Bush announced the surge of troops in support of a new counterinsurgency strategy a year ago, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Democratic Congressional leaders predicted failure. Obama, for example, told Larry King that he didn’t believe additional U.S. troops would “make a significant dent in the sectarian violence that’s taking place there.” Then in April, the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, asserted that “this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything.” In September, Clinton told Gen. David Petraeus that his claims of progress in Iraq required a “willing suspension of disbelief.”

The Democrats were wrong in their assessments of the surge. Attacks per week on American troops are now down about 60 percent from June. Civilian deaths are down approximately 75 percent from a year ago. December 2007 saw the second-lowest number of U.S. troops killed in action since March 2003. And according to Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno, commander of day-to-day military operations in Iraq, last month’s overall number of deaths, which includes Iraqi security forces and civilian casualties

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Do Obama and Clinton and Reid now acknowledge that they were wrong? Are they willing to say the surge worked?

What an incredible testament to the relentless courage and heroism of our Commander-in-Chief, President Bush, in the paper of dubious record, no less!!

In which sewer drain is that rat-bastard, Murtha, keeping such a low profile?

1 posted on 01/14/2008 1:53:22 AM PST by america4vr
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To: america4vr
Obama, for example, told Larry King that he didn’t believe additional U.S. troops would “make a significant dent in the sectarian violence that’s taking place there.”

Wow, that's some guy the dems have to lead our troops, huh?

If we had a truly honest press, there would be microphones stuck in Reid's face asking him if the war is still lost.

2 posted on 01/14/2008 1:59:05 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist who will vote Fred in the primary, Republican in November)
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To: Darkwolf377
If we had a truly honest press...
We don't even have a remotely honest press.
I saw one of the greatest tag lines ever recently.The fourth estate is a fifth column. Brilliant.
3 posted on 01/14/2008 2:03:54 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: america4vr

Now NYT’s base readership (in delcine) will really go apoplectic. A victory in Iraq? Say it ain’t so, Joe! (or in this case, Bill Kristol).


4 posted on 01/14/2008 2:39:18 AM PST by bajabaja
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To: bajabaja
Victory? .... Doesn't everybody know we're just stuck in a QUAGMIRE!

Halp us Dimokrats Were stuk hear in Irak!

5 posted on 01/14/2008 3:01:11 AM PST by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: america4vr

In a way, Slick Willie was more right that he even considered. Obamas’ whole campaign, and much of his “record”, *are* a fairy tale. And that fairy tale is, The Pied Piper of Hamelin. And Obamas followers are out of touch with reality all entranced by Obamas “brand new” tune, plagiarized from old discarded DemoLeftie playbooks of the past.


6 posted on 01/14/2008 3:05:08 AM PST by DGHoodini (Silent tears, bleeding heart...Well our prima donna plies her art.)
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To: All
Let's see some backbone!

7 posted on 01/14/2008 3:11:29 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: america4vr
Be careful.

The term "Fairy Tale" is racist now.

Black Leaders Question Clinton Remarks (BJ Clinton in PC Sights!)


8 posted on 01/14/2008 3:26:07 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Great Stuff!
Wasn't Bill Clinton supposed to be the first black president (as he was referred to throughout his presidency)??
9 posted on 01/14/2008 3:43:25 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: potlatch; Strawberry Blonde; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; SkyPilot; Alamo-Girl; ...

"Give me a break.

This whole thing is the biggest
fairy tale
I've ever seen."


10 posted on 01/14/2008 5:00:55 AM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve

WOW...

Look at the happy little campers behind Bill Clinton in that snapshot!!!

Not a smile on any of the six young cherubic faces behind him.

To ‘glowers of hate’; one ‘I’m bored’; one ‘Check out that crack in the floor boards over there’; one ‘vacant expression’; and one very smart young lady putting her thumb under her chin so her head doesn’t fall over on national TV so she can catch a few ZZZZ’s.


11 posted on 01/14/2008 6:04:49 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: SkyPilot

I don’t think you are getting the point.

It was far more than rascist.

Take another look at what she said about JFK.


12 posted on 01/14/2008 6:17:25 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad; potlatch

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Yup -

Slack Willie ain’t gettin’ the teen-boppers anymore......


13 posted on 01/14/2008 6:17:44 AM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: Darkwolf377
Obama, for example, told Larry King that he didn’t believe additional U.S. troops would “make a significant dent in the sectarian violence that’s taking place there.”

Wow, that's some guy the dems have to lead our troops, huh?

If we had a truly honest press, there would be microphones stuck in Reid's face asking him if the war is still lost.

I wonder if Osama Obama thinks that additional police in Detroit, Washington, D.C., Seattle, Fagafrisco, LA, Houston, Birmingham, East St. Louis, would end the murder, robbery, rape and violence there? I'm sure that he would spend tax dollars on the inter city crime because his fellow black mayors would be clamoring for more of our dollars to waste and embezzle into their own slime crime pockets. The Birmingham mayor is being looked at by the feds right now for corruption.

14 posted on 01/14/2008 6:21:53 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: america4vr; Fred Nerks; Beckwith
Obama’s view of the current situation in Iraq is out of touch with reality.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Even now, BJ Clinton is so truth challenged he can't possibly tell us much.

Obama's fairy tale is an F'n Horror show to the victims of current Muslim Luo genocidal riots in Nairobi against the largely Christian Kikuyu majority, perpetrated by Obama's cousin, Odinga, for whom Obama campaigned in August of 2006:

How Obama and 1st paternal cousin Odinga Tried to Bring Kenya Under Sharia Law and Failed, The Dose

And the MSM, nor his fellow Democrats,are not holding Obama to account.

15 posted on 01/14/2008 6:32:52 AM PST by Candor7
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Seadog Bytes; Alamo-Girl; doug from upland; FARS; ...



16 posted on 01/14/2008 7:12:17 AM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve; Fred Nerks
Bill did not have sex with "that woman."

And it all depends on the definition of what "IS" is.

Great photos!

A bitchure is worth a thousand words.

THe Dems finally play the race card, and it Pizzles.

Neither side in this crap shoot is telling the truth about Obama's support of Islamofascism in Kenya when he campaigned for his cousin Odinga in 2006, who even now is not being reported by the MSM, while Odinga continues his mantra:

"Odingo, Odanga, kill Kikuyu with the panga!"

Not surprising is it? Bill would not intervene in Chad while a thousands fell to the knife.He wouldn't even jam the radio transmissions which allowed the Hutu to coordinate the slaughter of thousands of Tutsi.

The Democrat closet on Africa is getting so full of Christian corpses that the stink is over powering, and the US MSM walks around with clothespins on their nostrils.

And we Republicans pretend not to see those clothespins?p> Its time we started screaming blue bloody murder, for THAT IS whats "is." Like it or not.

17 posted on 01/14/2008 7:31:57 AM PST by Candor7
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To: SkyPilot

The impeached ex president william jefferson cliton, had fairy tale mixed up with thoughts of a fairy tail...


18 posted on 01/14/2008 7:41:03 AM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: Candor7; potlatch

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I just set up my WebTV so I can monitor 2 cable channels at once and quickly grab vidcaps of live or recorded news or other programming

That photo on the right I grabbed is from a FNC broadcast this morning with a rerun of the Slack Willie “Give me a break! .....”

The “Fairy Tale” rant of sick old impeached President who sees his 3rd & 4th terms blowing away in the ill winds that the Clintons themselves are creating


19 posted on 01/14/2008 7:45:09 AM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve; Fred Nerks
Well if thats all the ammo Hillery is willing to use, a wrinkled old foreskin of a former president, then the republicans themselves need to reveal Obama for the Islamofascist supporting creature he really is.

It could actaully make Duncan Hunter's or Fred's campaign. The moment of truth approacheth, do we have enough hutzpah to pull of a revelation of the truth, or will we pander to the wimp factor yet again.

O Tom DeLay, where are you?

20 posted on 01/14/2008 7:52:21 AM PST by Candor7
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