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Bush: US should have bombed Auschwitz
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Posted on 01/11/2008 10:05:46 AM PST by starlifter

JERUSALEM - President Bush had tears in his eyes during an hour-long tour of Israel's Holocaust memorial Friday and told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that the U.S. should have bombed Auschwitz to halt the killing, the memorial's chairman said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: auschwitz; bush; bushvisit; holocaust; wwii
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To: biff
Bush is terrible with words. He should have said that WWII is the perfect example of how pre-emption and eliminating Hitler could have saved millions and millions of lives.

I think this came from his heart rather than his intellect, but you're right. He should have said the US should have entered the war in 1939

61 posted on 01/11/2008 11:28:36 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SolidWood
Fatah is no friend.

They have always shied away from a state. Because they have always gotten their strength from just complaining.

Force them into a state. They can't gripe they are oppressed and state-less anymore. Then they have to show some responsibility like all other nations of the world.

And it will be evident just how inept they are.

62 posted on 01/11/2008 11:36:57 AM PST by what's up
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To: starlifter

If America invaded Russia during the Russian Revolution, we might have saved 60 million lives from Commie genocide but I guess they are not so important.


63 posted on 01/11/2008 11:40:53 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: SJackson
US should have entered the war in 1939

Heck, the French could have nipped it in 1936 if they had shown a little backbone and backed up the Versailles treaty. To quote Hitler himself:

"The forty-eight hours after the march into the Rhineland were the most nerve-racking in my life. If the French had then marched into the Rhineland we would have had to withdraw with our tails between our legs, for the military resources at our disposal would have been wholly inadequate for even a moderate resistance."

64 posted on 01/11/2008 11:41:51 AM PST by Gator101 (Don't tase me, Bro!)
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To: starlifter
A patently absurd statement by our esteemed El Presidente, considering that the target decisions were made some 64 years ago in a completely different world. The U.S. in fact grappled with the issue, and decided that diverting bombers to the concentration camps would only lengthen the war and lead to even more people getting killed, particularly U.S. GIs and airmen in Europe.

Bush has been a complete embarrassment on this trip, but lately I've come to expect that of him.

65 posted on 01/11/2008 11:52:51 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: tcrlaf
And I guess it had NOTHING to do with Soviet Tank Production, gun production, or communist take-overs of occupied governments??

Of course...it has everything to do with the Soviets evil ambition to dominate eastern Europe. But the fact that the Allies refused requests for help from very high level anti-Nazis within the German Army...requests that began even before the German invasion of Czechoslovakia...helped the Soviets ultimately realize their goal.

The Soviets invaded Poland with the Nazis...before Barbarossa, the Soviets intended to push Hitler and the Nazis into a world war and split the spoils of Nazi conquests.

In the end, the Soviets, ironically, found the FDR Administration at Tehran and Yalta more than willing to cede to the Communists half of a dismembered Germany, Poland and a large swath of eastern Europe.

But we shouldn't be surprised...we now know that the FDR Administration was filled with Soviet spies...including several very high level officials like Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, Lauchlin Currie, Nathan Silvermaster, etc.

66 posted on 01/11/2008 11:54:15 AM PST by estimator (Defeat the illegal aliens' 3 Amigos--i.e. McCain, Huckleberry & Frooty)
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To: Eternal_Bear
If America invaded Russia during the Russian Revolution, we might have saved 60 million lives from Commie genocide but I guess they are not so important.

We did send in troops. About 12,000 split between Vladivostok and Arkhangelsk.

67 posted on 01/11/2008 12:03:16 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Calpernia; Founding Father

Ping.

This thread contains some history tidbits.


68 posted on 01/11/2008 12:09:03 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: Gator101
Heck, the French could have nipped it in 1936 if they had shown a little backbone and backed up the Versailles treaty. To quote Hitler himself: ............. "The forty-eight hours after the march into the Rhineland were the most nerve-racking in my life. If the French had then marched into the Rhineland we would have had to withdraw with our tails between our legs, for the military resources at our disposal would have been wholly inadequate for even a moderate resistance."

"Peace in Our Time!"

The "Peace" movements of the 1930's ending up costing Europe 40 million dead.

Today's "Peace" movements want to abandon 70% of the World's known oil reserves to the military control of Islamist fanatics in Iran actively seeking nuclear weapons, ICBM's and martyrdom.

How many millions of lives will that "Peace" cost in the future?


69 posted on 01/11/2008 12:09:38 PM PST by Polybius
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To: starlifter

Bush needs to just shut up. I think it’s unfair to second-guess Roosevelt with the advantage of 65 years hindsight. FDR knew the best way to stop the holocaust was to win the war, as soon as possible. Bombing concentration camps would have caused little slowdown in the killings taking place. The Nazis would have just moved down the road and found another place.


70 posted on 01/11/2008 12:16:17 PM PST by IndyTiger
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To: KarlInOhio

Not exactly a serious force considering that Trotsky and his war commissars were rasing scores of divisions.


71 posted on 01/11/2008 12:17:56 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Hitting a 10 foot wide rail line from B17 doing 300+ MPH, 5 miles up with a 40 mph cross wind ain't easy.

The cruising speed of a fully-loaded B17 was far less than 300 mph, but I take your point.

B-17 Flying Fortress

72 posted on 01/11/2008 12:19:44 PM PST by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
I think Bush should stop arming the Palestinians who want to start their own little Auschwitz on the Mediterranean.

You can't say it any better than that.

73 posted on 01/11/2008 12:19:46 PM PST by TheThinker (Hollywood: The Democrats Propaganda Arm)
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To: biff
Bush is terrible with words. He should have said that WWII is the perfect example of how pre-emption and eliminating Hitler could have saved millions and millions of lives.

My mom and I were talking about this yesterday. You are correct. But think how the liberals view pre-emption. They see it as cold blooded assassination! We were imagining a 1992 election without Perot, and Bush I actually winning. He sees the threat of bin Laden and has him killed in that "hunting expedition" with the Saudi prince.

From then on, when the libs hear of this attack, they claim he, the big CIA man, went out and had our allies (binnie and the Saudi) killed for no reason, against the will of America, bla bla bla. No one would ever have know what bin Laden would have been capable of (9/11) because it would not have occurred.

Who knows what the winning against terror in Iraq will have prevented? With G-d's help, we never HAVE to know.

74 posted on 01/11/2008 12:28:44 PM PST by Yaelle (If Fred loses it's our loss. Not his.)
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To: af_vet_rr

There were raids where the 8th AF lost 20 - 25% (Schweinfurt) of their attacking force. Many of the battle damaged aircraft that DID make it home were total write-offs. As to strategic targeting: the Bomber Command shifted from Sub Pens, to Oil, to Rail Transportation, to Ball Bearings, to Fighters. Almost nothing worked as expected as the targets were either difficult to strike, too heavily defended, or easily repaired.


75 posted on 01/11/2008 12:31:24 PM PST by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: starlifter

Hmm, I’m not sure that much would’ve been accomplished by bombing Auschwitz; i.e., the killing would’ve continued unabated. The most important thing was bringing down that regime and we accomplished that (to the sound of crickets from the hate-America crowd). However, it might’ve been a nice symbolic gesture.


76 posted on 01/11/2008 1:28:40 PM PST by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
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To: starlifter

Good Grief...I would NOT believe this memeorial guy to repeat exactly what Bush said.


77 posted on 01/11/2008 1:29:55 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Rummyfan

Then he should help them bomb Axis power Iran asap and prevent holocaust 2.


78 posted on 01/11/2008 5:20:43 PM PST by omega4179 (Duncan has fire in the belly!)
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To: starlifter
FIRST, lets talk about a couple of things straight about this "idea"; Jorge Bushwinski had. ONE, at the time, 1943-44 when the US was bombing Germany, the Army Air Force was flying off England to Germany and hitting as far as Berlin and returning to England. I don't think the B17s could have made it all the way to Poland to bomb and return to England. The rates of losses were bad enough because of the lack of fighter protection. It took D-Day for our fighters to be able to better protect the bombers over the mainland. There would have been no fighter protection for the bombers to travel on to Poland for a bombing run on a death camp that FDR ignored anyway, and returned. The losses would have probably doubled because of the lack of fighter protection. And, secondly, the master mind Jorge forgets that BOMBING Auschwitz WOULD HAVE KILLED THE JEWS!!! that were being held there. So, Jorge is saying it was better to bomb them to death than the Nazi’s too gas them??? Huh???
79 posted on 01/11/2008 5:21:49 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: Rummyfan

But the West Bank and Gaza are occupied territories. Who’s occupying them? The Islamofascist terrorists of Palestine of course, which is why we call them the Palestinian-occupied terrorist territories.


80 posted on 01/11/2008 5:30:01 PM PST by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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