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Bush: US should have bombed Auschwitz
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Posted on 01/11/2008 10:05:46 AM PST by starlifter

JERUSALEM - President Bush had tears in his eyes during an hour-long tour of Israel's Holocaust memorial Friday and told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that the U.S. should have bombed Auschwitz to halt the killing, the memorial's chairman said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: auschwitz; bush; bushvisit; holocaust; wwii
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To: SF Republican

Actually, we had ample intelligence and evidence, including photographs smuggled out by escapees, in early 1944.

We knew what was going on in the camps.


21 posted on 01/11/2008 10:24:23 AM PST by starlifter
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To: SF Republican

They knew they were concentration camps and there was plenty of intel that the camps were death camps. Many people thought the rumors were grossly exaggerated.

It didn’t become real until our soldiers got to the camps and saw what had happened.


22 posted on 01/11/2008 10:24:41 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

I think Bush should stop arming the Palestinians who want to start their own little Auschwitz on the Mediterranean.”
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23 posted on 01/11/2008 10:25:08 AM PST by cowdog77 (I'm a Christian first, conservative second, and Republican third.)
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To: what's up
Uh...I would say he's killed thousands more Islamofascists than anyone in history.

Yes, but why assisting in the dismemberment of Israel, in order to create a terrorist state next door? His Palestine policy is an odd departure from the way he deals with Iraq/Afghanistan Al-Qaeda. Fatah is no friend.

24 posted on 01/11/2008 10:25:47 AM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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To: Greg F

My understanding is that most proponents of bombing the camps argue for destroying the rail lines to the camps. Now that still leaves the issues of precision, and it wouldn’t take long to lay new track. Furthermore, those already in route might well have died or been killed if they couldn’t get through.

Bottom line, the hindsight should be left alone in this case.


25 posted on 01/11/2008 10:28:02 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: tflabo
Care about stopping future killing of Jews.... bomb Iran instead.

Here Here!

And stop referring to Jerusalem and the West Bank as occuppied territories, stop pushing for a Palestinian state which will be nothing more than a staging ground for raiding Israel, and stop pushing for a Palestinian right-of-return.

26 posted on 01/11/2008 10:28:44 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

I hope the Presdient took this all in and realized that no Israeli leader is going to allow a Second Holocaust to occur.


27 posted on 01/11/2008 10:29:46 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: KarlInOhio
If I were an Army Air Corps general at the time, I would have had a very tough time not bombing the camp, but the only way to stop the killing was to conquer Germany, thus every mission had to be to that end.

You are spot on. The quickest way to end the killing is to win the war.
28 posted on 01/11/2008 10:30:07 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: starlifter

There’s been debate about this topic for decades and it’s always easy to make lofty moral judgements after the fact. The Nazis were so insanely determined to exterminate the Jews that I don’t think one life would have been saved had Auschwitz been flattened. The Jews would have died in sealed boxcars or else been murdered elsewhere.


29 posted on 01/11/2008 10:30:48 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: starlifter

The cat should of married its kindergarten sweetheart!


30 posted on 01/11/2008 10:32:02 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: tflabo

Bush is terrible with words. He should have said that WWII is the perfect example of how pre-emption and eliminating Hitler could have saved millions and millions of lives.

Same is true today with Iran.


31 posted on 01/11/2008 10:32:12 AM PST by biff
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To: starlifter

Oh man, the Opposition is going to have a field day with this one....


32 posted on 01/11/2008 10:32:43 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: starlifter

Bombing then was good for +/- five miles. Worse at night.
Nazi’s could kill anywhere.


33 posted on 01/11/2008 10:33:09 AM PST by Leisler
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To: SF Republican

‘I understood before that we were not aware of what was going on until our forces stumbled upon them. How could we have bombed what we did not know existed?”

The soldiers didn’t know but our leadership did. There were reports of what was happening by people who escaped and the underground. The decision was made to focus elsewhere as the best way to end the war.


34 posted on 01/11/2008 10:33:27 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: SoCal Pubbie

We destroyed tens of thousands of miles of rails. Germans just fixed them. They’d tell everyone out and start walking.


35 posted on 01/11/2008 10:34:31 AM PST by Leisler
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To: starlifter

After Bush performs his “moral calculus” regarding Israel and palestine, he throws a backhanded compliment to Israel “he would have bombed Auschwitz” Like that is going to make things better. As Bush sells out Israel.

What happened to George Bush?


36 posted on 01/11/2008 10:34:45 AM PST by ventanax5
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To: starlifter

And 70 years from now the grandaughter of Chelsea Clinton the first woman president is saying the same thing about the nuclear processing plants in Iran that allowed over 1000 simultaneous small nuclear devices to be detonated in the US and knocked us lower than a third world nation for over 10 years.


37 posted on 01/11/2008 10:36:44 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: LiveFree99
The Nazi’s killed Jews, and others, wholesale. The camps, on the large scale were a progressive invention for efficiencies. Other, older methods worked fine.

Ah, to live, disarmed in a total, socialist state, democratic or otherwise. People are integers, resources, property as everything else, of the state.

This is why, every and any citizen that wants a military weapon, or weapons should have them. I don’t care how many high school kids get killed every year.
Nothing kills, steals, murders like humans in service of the state.

38 posted on 01/11/2008 10:38:28 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Greg F
If you kill the people, you don’t need the chamber. The chambers were not high tech and could have been replaced or repaired quickly. Failing that, there are bullets or the end of shovels. Just a stupid meaningless thing to say so many years after the fact. An exercise in mindless guilt and hand wringing. Also,the camp in Poland was not the only killing factory in operation. The US ended the killing by ending the regime of the killers. Hunting them down and killing them. Bush could learn something from that.
39 posted on 01/11/2008 10:38:38 AM PST by isrul
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Hitting a 10 foot wide rail line from B17 doing 300+ MPH, 5 miles up with a 40 mph cross wind ain't easy.

The only places in WWII where bombing was really effective against railroads was in Italy and France where the damage was done by fighter bombers, Typhoons and P47s mostly. The reason it worked then is because the attacks could be repeated day after day so about the time the line was fixed here came the fighter bombers again.

Another problem with hitting rail lines with level bombers in WWII was the the targeters tended to go after bridges and marshaling yards where repair supplies where stored nearby, instead of out in the middle of nowhere where the Germans would have to spend a day or two transporting repair crews and supplies before they could even go to work on the damage. When you have as little chance as we did then of hitting a rail line I guess they had to hope to make up for the inaccuracy with collateral damage.

The best examples of war against railroads is the US civil war. The Union never caught N. B. Forrest and the Confederacy never stopped W. T. Sherman’s Bummers but both sides got so good at repairing the damage that by the end of the civil war the strategic benefits railroad wrecking were much reduced.

I suspect the ever efficient Germans in WWII would have developed the skill pretty quickly - we might have seen prisoners from the camps hauled out to make repairs, then sent back to be executed or killed on the spot, the deaths blamed on the allies.

40 posted on 01/11/2008 10:40:55 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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