Free Republic’s (1/9) poll on Republican candidates’ liberal positions that would be deal killers
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=210;results=1
thread discussion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951136/posts
chances on intrade -- snapshot http://www.intrade.com
The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts
“Our prediction market for Iowa turned out to be very accurate,” Rasmussen said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948537/posts?page=53#53
Rasmussen started using Intrade results.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945852/posts
Six candidates to participate in historic 2008 S.C. GOP Presidential Candidates Debate (No Hunter)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950953/posts
For the Duncan Hunter Ping List
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Free Republic’s (1/9) poll on Republican candidates’ liberal positions that would be deal killers
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=210;results=1
thread discussion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951136/posts
chances on intrade — snapshot http://www.intrade.com
The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts
“Our prediction market for Iowa turned out to be very accurate,” Rasmussen said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948537/posts?page=53#53
Rasmussen started using Intrade results.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945852/posts
Six candidates to participate in historic 2008 S.C. GOP Presidential Candidates Debate (No Hunter)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950953/posts
I e-mailed the head of the SC Republican Party yesterday and asked why they were in such a hurry to let the opinions of a bunch of Yankees decide who could even speak in South Carolina. No response, of course.
Kevmo, is Hunter being dropped from another debate? I know Fox News dropped him from the NH debate.
As I wrote before, this is wrong. It is actually shaping the race rather than reporting on it. Fox News, in other words, took it upon themselves to tell us voters who we should vote for—the five anointed ones.
Now I’m not a Ron Paul supporter, but the man is a Republican candidate with a national following. He deserves a chance to speak. So does Duncan Hunter. Why should they have to pay for press when some get it for free (that’s what a debate is, free press).
I think we have ample evidence of the media’s role in shaping this race. Huckabee, for example, came out of nowhere. Ask yourself how that happened. Huckabee had almost no money, couldn’t pay to run ads, and suddenly he gets all sorts of positive press.
Also ask yourself why Thompson, a solid conservative who came in 3rd (NOT McPain) in Iowa and 2nd in Wyoming is constantly accused, by the media, of running a lackluster campaign. Fred is out there slogging away on a daily basis, yet he gets almost no positive press. SO, how in the world is he supposed to create a powerful campaign? Is he supposed to spend millions and millions for ads while the Huckster and McPain get their positive press for FREE?
Are we at the point in American politics where only candidates with personal fortunes or media darlings have a chance? I’m sorry to say, that’s the way it seems to me.
Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s a thing I can do about it other than to vote my principles regardless of what the media pundits or polls say.
You know it’s not just how debate participants are chosen. It’s that the news media is in a sense running our lives by deciding what’s important and what’s not, by placing undo importance on polls (always, not just during elections), by the use of “pundits” whose vanities can make or break a candidate.
Last night, when asked about Fred Thompson in SC, Krauthammer declared he was “dead”. A week and a half before the primary, and you’ve made the decision for the voters of SC? I mean really, how dare you be so presumptuous as to decide he’s out? He came in second in Wyoming, 3rd in Iowa, but he’s “dead”?? But Guiliani is somehow viable only because of their precious polling nationally. I guess it doesn’t occur to them how much that hurts a campaign.
And I am sorry for the Duncan Hunter supporters because the media decided he wasn’t worth covering before the race even started.
Sad but true.
Leading the pack though it may be, it's leading with a little less than 25%. So looking at it another way, 75% won't vote R regardless. :)
The pickins are gittin slim.
I noticed that right away too. Sad that so many brain dead lemmings inhabit this site anymore- I miss 1998, when people around here had balls.
Understandable angst.
But speaking personally, the points I make ARE designed to promote conservatism in America, even though some on FR virulently reject my advocacy of Mitt Romney.
Guess it comes down to one's definition of conservative promotion. It's all a matter of degree.
Last I checked, Romney (and others) ARE openly and willingly promoting conservative values in which I believe .... freedom of worship without ridicule, low taxes, strong military/American presence in defending our nation, good wholesome family issues.
I also focus on getting results... of being pragmatic.
Would much rather get 80% of what is good for America (thru Romney's conservative promotion) than 0% if we get smooshed in the election.
I am not a believer in holding on to the deck of the Titanic as it sinks six miles thru icy cold waters to the bottom of the Atlantic.
At some point, we as conservatives must be alive to continue the good fight.
I believe that some leaders are truly repentant of things they've said, of decisions they've made, in the past.
I know I am repentant of dumb things I once believed.
And thus we should at least be willing to give them the benefit of their conversion.... not just outright nasty rejection.
Anyway, that's my two-cent cup-of-coffee thought for the morning.
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Interesting. BTTT.
In other words, my "vote R regardless" was in the context of this current race. I'd pick any of the Republican candidates over Hillary or Obama, the only two likely Democrat candidates.
Honestly, I suspect you would too.
And to those who say they'd stay home or vote third party or write in "Bozo the Clown", I ask this:
Yes, for the primary, we should each back the one we prefer. But in the general, sometimes one's highest priority must be voting against the Marxist lying treasonous murdering stealing felonious b**atch.
If nothing else, the prospect of two more Ruth Bader Ginsbergs should be enough to steel anyone's spine.
Duncan Lee Hunter, who would stomp any
democrat in a free election, is hidden
from view by the DRNC and Their MSM buddies.
I got my ballot yesterday (mail in) so I had the privilege of voting for Duncan Hunter!
I just ignore all the talk, excluding him, and have even turned the tv off FNC. (nothing to gain by leaving it on Fox).
It's so disappointing to see how all the convervative things I relied on have now become Republican (without the conservatism) *sigh*
” On the latest poll, “I’ll vote R regardless” is leading the pack. I call people who vote this way UIN republicans, because they’ll vote for anything with an R in front of it, regardless of what it means.”
Ummm, don’t you think you are exaggerating a bit.
If republicans elect a moderate instead of a conservative WTH do you expect us to do? Sit it out, and let a true blue liberal/socialist win???
The GOP polling was fine. It was the Hillary-stolen election results that differed from polling. You would have a better argument if you were talking about a Democrat candidate, not Hunter.
Six candidates to participate in historic 2008 S.C. GOP
To leave out ANY candidate when the primaries are only beginning is an abomination. If the S.C. GOP were worth a damn, they would withdraw their sponsorship from this love fest the way the N.H. GOP did Sunday night.
Actually, if ANY of these vaunted republican candidates had a spine, THEY would withdraw from participating unless they were ALL included. None of them, to my knowledge, have made a peep in regard to this outrage, save DENNIS KUCINICH. Now that is pathetic!
What would happen if they would all simply refuse to attend unless they were all included? It could be used as an example of their desire to UNITE not DIVIDE the party. Instead, they are perfectly happy to be in the limelight, for however long it lasts and to hell with the party, a fair election process or the country.
Fact of the matter is, every republican candidate should have been making noise about these phony debates all along, especially after the CNN debacle.
I don’t see how anyone can defend this action when it affects a conservative.
Nor can I!
This is a conservative forum, not a GOP one.
No comment.....
Everyone on FR, anyone that calls themselves a conservative or an American should be outraged.
The lack thereof is most telling!
Interesting thread ping.
“If Hunter drops out, he’ll most likely endorse Fred. If Hunter drops, then Fred drops, we will all be pissed if the first scenario comes true, and there is no conservative in the race.”
Yes, I’ll be “pissed”.
Then again I’ve been steadily getting more and more jaded.
I’m here in Minnesota and we have McCains main man here, Gov. Pawlenty, a RINO’S RINO if ever there was one.
So in that respect I should be gratefull.
At least I’ve been “Broken in” already.
If anyone needs to borrow my vaseline, lemme know.
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