Posted on 01/10/2008 1:11:53 AM PST by Kevmo
Free Republic’s (1/9) poll on Republican candidates’ liberal positions that would be deal killers
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=210;results=1
thread discussion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951136/posts
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The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts
“Our prediction market for Iowa turned out to be very accurate,” Rasmussen said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948537/posts?page=53#53
Rasmussen started using Intrade results.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945852/posts
Six candidates to participate in historic 2008 S.C. GOP Presidential Candidates Debate (No Hunter)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950953/posts
For the Duncan Hunter Ping List
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Free Republic’s (1/9) poll on Republican candidates’ liberal positions that would be deal killers
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=210;results=1
thread discussion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951136/posts
chances on intrade — snapshot http://www.intrade.com
The Efficacy Of Prediction Markets The Liberty Papers ^ |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts
“Our prediction market for Iowa turned out to be very accurate,” Rasmussen said.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1948537/posts?page=53#53
Rasmussen started using Intrade results.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945852/posts
Six candidates to participate in historic 2008 S.C. GOP Presidential Candidates Debate (No Hunter)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950953/posts
For the Duncan Hunter Ping list.
I e-mailed the head of the SC Republican Party yesterday and asked why they were in such a hurry to let the opinions of a bunch of Yankees decide who could even speak in South Carolina. No response, of course.
“...why they were in such a hurry to let the opinions of a bunch of Yankees decide who could even speak in South Carolina.”
You’d have thought they would have learned that lesson about 150 years ago.
Here’s one suggestion that I’ve floated:
When all the smoke clears, if Hunter doesn’t get the nomination, I have one more suggestion for all of us remaining conservative freepers. It would make sense for us to have an idealogy score, a set of questions with rankings of how important the issue is and how strongly a freeper agrees/disagrees with it. We could all put these results on our home pages, so that when another freeper is debating with us (or us with them) we could just go to their home page, check their score on that issue & others, and realize “Ohhh, this is a Ron Paul supporter” or “ohh, this guy is a small l libertarian” or “ohh, this guy is a Big F FISCAL Conservative and a small l social liberal.”
The Republican Party has always been made up of conservative, moderate, populist and liberal factions. The struggle for control by one group or another has been ongoing since the 1800's. In fact, I like the wide range of choices in candidates we have this year. Every faction of the party is represented which leads to healthy debate which is alot more than can be said for the cookie-cutter candidates put up by the Democrats.
If Fred Thompson, for instance, would be nominated would we conservatives appreciate it if the moderate and liberal wing would sit out the election because their candidate didn't win? Would conservatives have been OK with the moderates snubbing Reagan in 1980 and voting for John Anderson? Hardly.
The primary objective in this election, I believe, is to keep the radical wing of the Democrat Party (is there any other?) from gaining control of the White House and doing harm to our country through their social and economic experimentation. To do this we must support and vote for the candidate chosen by our party no matter whether we are 100% behind them or 30%. It is dangerous and even fool-hardy to do otherwise.
I didn’t leave the party, it left me. —Ronald Reagan
Sorry, Jim, but I think the stakes are too high this time to afford daliances with third parties or sitting out the election. We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.
Wonder what Michael Reagan thinks about this, and the MSM and Establishment knocking out fellow California conservative Duncan Hunter, and remembering Reagan's principled and passioned defense of opponent John B. Anderson to be included in a 1980 Debate? Maybe Michael Reagan could lobby to get Duncan included at the debate at his father's library and place of rest, which is scheduled for the end of this month in California.
The stakes were high in Reagan’s day too.
Don’t let them get away with choosing the candidates!
Contact: Rob Godfrey, SC GOP Communications Director
803.807.7144
The SC GOP main number: Phone: 803.988.8440
Fox News: 1-888-369-4762.
Your premise is wrong: the polls missed only the Dim standings in New Hampshire; probably, as Rush analyzed, because those Dims polled didn't want to appear to oppose the only minority candidate.
“We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.”
It seems like we tried that eight years ago (actually that exact process started in 1988, with an eight year hiatus for beelzabubba0. It would be hard for any conservative to say that conservatism has fared well since that time.
We did have a brief triumph in ‘94, but that seemed to be relatively short-lived.
I have seen more damage done to the conservative coalition, in the last eight years, than any time in history. We have been damaged, not because the Democrats were in power, but because the GOP has been in power. There have been numerous issues recently that have driven us apart instead of holding us together.
We (and I do not include “conservatives”) have been compromising ourselves right into the dustbin of history. Real conservatives know who they are and know that they, and the nation, are in grave peril.
Kevmo, is Hunter being dropped from another debate? I know Fox News dropped him from the NH debate.
As I wrote before, this is wrong. It is actually shaping the race rather than reporting on it. Fox News, in other words, took it upon themselves to tell us voters who we should vote for—the five anointed ones.
Now I’m not a Ron Paul supporter, but the man is a Republican candidate with a national following. He deserves a chance to speak. So does Duncan Hunter. Why should they have to pay for press when some get it for free (that’s what a debate is, free press).
I think we have ample evidence of the media’s role in shaping this race. Huckabee, for example, came out of nowhere. Ask yourself how that happened. Huckabee had almost no money, couldn’t pay to run ads, and suddenly he gets all sorts of positive press.
Also ask yourself why Thompson, a solid conservative who came in 3rd (NOT McPain) in Iowa and 2nd in Wyoming is constantly accused, by the media, of running a lackluster campaign. Fred is out there slogging away on a daily basis, yet he gets almost no positive press. SO, how in the world is he supposed to create a powerful campaign? Is he supposed to spend millions and millions for ads while the Huckster and McPain get their positive press for FREE?
Are we at the point in American politics where only candidates with personal fortunes or media darlings have a chance? I’m sorry to say, that’s the way it seems to me.
Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s a thing I can do about it other than to vote my principles regardless of what the media pundits or polls say.
You know it’s not just how debate participants are chosen. It’s that the news media is in a sense running our lives by deciding what’s important and what’s not, by placing undo importance on polls (always, not just during elections), by the use of “pundits” whose vanities can make or break a candidate.
Last night, when asked about Fred Thompson in SC, Krauthammer declared he was “dead”. A week and a half before the primary, and you’ve made the decision for the voters of SC? I mean really, how dare you be so presumptuous as to decide he’s out? He came in second in Wyoming, 3rd in Iowa, but he’s “dead”?? But Guiliani is somehow viable only because of their precious polling nationally. I guess it doesn’t occur to them how much that hurts a campaign.
And I am sorry for the Duncan Hunter supporters because the media decided he wasn’t worth covering before the race even started.
Sheeple,These rinos can go join the RAT party.Look what we got the last time we followed the partyline.
On the contrary,It does occur to the FAUX guys what they are doing.They are against a conservative candidate anyway you cut it.They have their marching orders and will not say anything positive with regards to Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson.rooty,romney mcnutts all the time.
You can call me any name you want but the fact is the RINOs aren't going to leave and join the RAT party. Either we are the ones who will leave in defeat or stay and fight to regain control of our party. I believe we must stay and be players in setting the agenda for the next eight years in the Republican Party.
We are engaged in a cultural war both within our party and with the Dems. I no more wish to cut and run from that war than I do from our war on terrorists. Look at it as a war on cultural terrorists.
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