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“We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.”

It seems like we tried that eight years ago (actually that exact process started in 1988, with an eight year hiatus for beelzabubba0. It would be hard for any conservative to say that conservatism has fared well since that time.

We did have a brief triumph in ‘94, but that seemed to be relatively short-lived.

I have seen more damage done to the conservative coalition, in the last eight years, than any time in history. We have been damaged, not because the Democrats were in power, but because the GOP has been in power. There have been numerous issues recently that have driven us apart instead of holding us together.

We (and I do not include “conservatives”) have been compromising ourselves right into the dustbin of history. Real conservatives know who they are and know that they, and the nation, are in grave peril.

“We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.”

Real conservatives know who they are and know that they, and the nation, are in grave peril.

Gentlemen - I have come to the conclusion that there is no saving the Republic. The forces of socialism have won. The candidates on both sides represent various degrees of socialist ideology, with a couple of obvious exceptions (Hunter and Thompson). I don't believe either of them will win the nomination, and if they do I don't believe they will win the election.

Socialism kills societies the way a boa constrictor does, by using a ratcheting strategy that always tightens around its victim. What you're seeing here is the end game in strangling our country to death.

Reagan got Gorbachev to tear down the wall. What he didn't do was to stop the forces of socialism within our country. No criticism there, just an observation. I don't believe anyone could have done it. The forces of international socialism lost "the battle of the Berlin Wall", but they won the overall long term war against capitalism. Our children are doomed to a grim future of working hard in order to have even a little bit above and beyond what their socialist masters permit them to have.

If we're lucky, we'll be permitted to live out our lives in peace. If we're not lucky, the socialists will make sure we never trouble them again. You can fill in the blanks in that scenario. I'll give you a hint - imagine what Hillary will do to thwart Rush Limbaugh when she's in office. Picture a national crisis, ginned up by the imaginative Clintons, under which all subversive elements are subject to their control.

It would be hard for any conservative to say that conservatism has fared well since that time.

Can't locate the list at this moment, but I remember passing around the list of solid accomplishments of the GWB folks the first four years of his administration.

Tax cuts, rejection of Kyoto, two fabulous Supreme Court Judges, kick-butt success in Iraq and Afghan, Great free-market economy, near elimination of estate tax, etc.

Have there been some letdowns? You bet.

But GWB has done some good things that we should not dismiss out of hand.