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To: Jim Robinson

Sorry, Jim, but I think the stakes are too high this time to afford daliances with third parties or sitting out the election. We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.


9 posted on 01/10/2008 1:59:05 AM PST by Russ
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To: Russ

The stakes were high in Reagan’s day too.


11 posted on 01/10/2008 2:34:07 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Russ

“We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.”

It seems like we tried that eight years ago (actually that exact process started in 1988, with an eight year hiatus for beelzabubba0. It would be hard for any conservative to say that conservatism has fared well since that time.

We did have a brief triumph in ‘94, but that seemed to be relatively short-lived.

I have seen more damage done to the conservative coalition, in the last eight years, than any time in history. We have been damaged, not because the Democrats were in power, but because the GOP has been in power. There have been numerous issues recently that have driven us apart instead of holding us together.

We (and I do not include “conservatives”) have been compromising ourselves right into the dustbin of history. Real conservatives know who they are and know that they, and the nation, are in grave peril.


14 posted on 01/10/2008 2:44:12 AM PST by David Isaac (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Russ

Save it from what ? If Rs vote for McCain, Huckabee, Guiliani or Romney, we are voting for a democrat who doesn’t choose to call themselves one.

What’s the difference ?


31 posted on 01/10/2008 4:16:45 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Russ

Let me know how that works out.

TLR


33 posted on 01/10/2008 4:22:53 AM PST by The Last Rebel
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To: Russ; Jim Robinson
Sorry, Jim, but I think the stakes are too high this time to afford daliances with third parties or sitting out the election.

I've been here since 1998 and this claim is ALWAYS made. And it is always made by a person trying to convince someone else to vote for a non-conservative candidate.

We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable.

Mm-hmmm, that's what we were promised about President Bush when people got skittish over Bush's "compassionate conservatism" rhetoric. It didn't quite work out as promised.

Face it, if another lib republican makes it into the white house there will be no holding his feet to the fire. There will be cheerleading and shouting down of people who DO try to keep him accountable. It's happened that way before, it'll happen that way again.

It just might save the Republic.

Or it just might kill it.

38 posted on 01/10/2008 4:41:00 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: Russ

Some of what you write sounds real pretty but I’m sorry there is just no daylight inbetween a candidate like McCain and Hillary!. Plus, he’s rather crazy so there no way I can vote for that “R”!


69 posted on 01/10/2008 6:36:49 AM PST by CAluvdubya (I won't stop supporting Hunter until he tells me to...GO HUNTER '08)
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To: Russ; Jim Robinson

“Sorry, Jim, but I think the stakes are too high this time to afford daliances with third parties or sitting out the election. We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.”

Exactly how do you hold a GOP president accountable if your position is support the GOP regardless. Isn’t that a pretty toothless position. The same “The Survival Of The Republic” chant goes up every election cycle. In 2006 one of the bits of wisdom that was floating around was that if the Dems. took back congress they would immediately surrender in Iraq....the last time I checked even Murtha was admitting that the surge was working, so that didn’t really come to pass. The stakes in a national election are always high, but IMO complaining loudly that the GOP is going too far to the left, and then voting for the GOP right or wrong doesn’t exactly send a strong message....Reminds me of that old cliche about dad telling his bickering kids in the back seat that if they don’t quiet down he’ll turn this car around right now and go back home. Sorry, but that won’t work, or I should say it hasn’t worked yet, and at this point I’m not optimistic.


73 posted on 01/10/2008 7:06:07 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: Russ

Sorry, Jim, but I think the stakes are too high this time
***We just had one of those stakes stab the republic in the back. You’re so blinded by your hopes for your own candidate that you cannot see the tragedy that has occurred for conservatism, our republic, and our country. You are a RINO.

to afford daliances with third parties or sitting out the election.
***Baloney. Either the GOP wakes up or it participates in its own destruction. Remember what happened to the Whigs — their contingent of moral compromisers wouldn’t go along with the socon wing at the time over the most pressing moral issue of the day, and the republican party was borne out of it. Most americans don’t know who the whigs were, but they know who the republicans are.

We help elect a Republican president and then hold him accountable. It just might save the Republic.
***Look at how that approach worked with aRINOld. Did conservatism win? NO. It will take a decade to rebuild the California GOP after this guy is done doing his damage. The same could happen on a national scale if we do not nominate a true conservative. Shutting out the truest conservative from debates is absolutely contrary to your own goals, but you don’t care because your own guy wasn’t affected ... yet.


84 posted on 01/10/2008 8:33:47 AM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter won't "let some arrogant corporate media executive decide whether this campaign's over)
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To: Russ
You are wrong, we either take back the party, or give what is left to the rinos, who can’t win without us. A long time ago there was a left and a right candidate. Over the years the right candidate has continued to move LEFT. The left candidate, if anything has moved LEFT. If we keep supporting the lesser of two evils, our candidates will continue to drift left. I will not vote for the lesser of two evils. I’ve done it all my life, and the evil I vote for is more and more evil. I’m done. I’ll write Fred’s name in if I have to. If he endorse McCain, I’ll laugh and still right his name in.
189 posted on 01/10/2008 6:18:46 PM PST by Robbin
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