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Serbia, U.S. mark 125 years of state ties
B92 ^ | December 27, 2007 | staff

Posted on 01/09/2008 6:59:05 PM PST by Bokababe

BELGRADE -- The 125th anniversary of diplomatic relations between Belgrade and Washington comes at a difficult time.

The anniversary marks the date on which King Milan Obrenovic; signed a decree, putting into effect the Trade Agreement and the Consular Convention between Serbia and the United States.

The issue of the status of Kosovo, Serbia's southern province under international interim administration since the end of the 1999 war there, is at the center of serious misgivings between the two countries.

Washington insists on supporting the province's independence, while Serbia's top state officials reject this, and issue sometimes strongly worded statements critical of Washington's policy.

Addressing the Serbian parliament Wednesday the Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica openly accused the United States of violating international law and destroying the system of the United Nations, "all because of the country's own military-security interests aimed at the setting up of a quasi-state in which NATO, as specified in Annex 11 of the Ahtisaari plan, would become the final body of authority in independent Kosovo,” Tanjug reminded.

Despite all this, U.S. Ambassador to Serbia Cameron Munter, while speaking on the occasion of the anniversary, pointed out that the Serbian-U.S. ties remain "very strong".

"Serbia and the U.S. have been partners for more than a century now," Munter told the agency on Wednesday, adding that there were times when the relations between the two countries were characterized by upheavals and others when they were those of close friendship.

"Serbs and Americans fought side by side in Europe and many U.S. soldiers owe their lives to Serbs," Munter reminded.

The two countries have established successful economic and cultural ties, and a lot of Americans, including writers, musicians, political leaders, sportsmen and other renowned persons are of Serb origin, the ambassador added.

"The Serbian-American ties are strong and they will get even stronger with our further support to Serbia as part of free and peaceful Europe," Munter assessed, adding that Washington's support for Serbia would "continue to be strong in future as well".

The ambassador reminded that last year, when Serbia and the United States began marking the 125th anniversary of their diplomatic relations, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had sent a letter to then Foreign Minister Vuk Draškovic;, expressing belief in further cooperation between the two countries, which, as she put it, would make it possible for Serbia to realize its role of being a pillar of the Balkans, as a safer and more democratic region, as well as getting fully integrated into the Euro-Atlantic community.

"This still counts," Munter concluded.

This time, however, he did not speak about Kosovo, which can be explained by the fact that the U.S. has made its stand on the issue quite clear on several occasions, Tanjug reported.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; bush; clinton; dhimmwit; jihad; kosovo; mohammedanism; nato; serbia; us; wrongside
For once, I am simply at a loss for what to say.
1 posted on 01/09/2008 6:59:10 PM PST by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe

Diplmatic mumbo jumbo-—the US is embarking on the most wicked and insane course of action in the annals of its foreign policy—one that will haunt us for ages hence.

Prof Thomas lays it all out.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C01%5C10%5Cstory_10-1-2008_pg3_6


2 posted on 01/09/2008 7:10:46 PM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Bokababe

Huh? 125 years, and somehow we are supposed to forget that we killed 2,000-4,000 Serbian civilians to help rebel Muslim criminals establish an Al Queda vassal state within their territory?


3 posted on 01/09/2008 7:13:51 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Well, Serbia can always cut diplomatic ties and declare war.


4 posted on 01/09/2008 7:43:29 PM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: montag813
"Huh? 125 years, and somehow we are supposed to forget that we killed 2,000-4,000 Serbian civilians to help rebel Muslim criminals establish an Al Queda vassal state within their territory?"

Now you know why I was at a loss for words!

5 posted on 01/09/2008 7:52:21 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
“The allied states occasionally split with each other and new alliances are formed. Each time this happens, history is rewritten to convince the people that the new alliances were always there, using the principles of doublethink.” Wikipedia ,”Nineteen Eighty Four”

The United States has always been at peace with Serbia...Clinton, Iran and the KLA? Down the memory hole!

6 posted on 01/09/2008 8:31:45 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: montag813

Damn, I agree.

Clinton sold out the Serbs so the Mooslums can kill more of the non_mooslums in Yugoslavia.

Thanks a lot Bill.


7 posted on 01/09/2008 8:38:35 PM PST by max americana
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To: GAB-1955
Or the US can fight against the Jihadists and for the Christian Serbs.
8 posted on 01/09/2008 8:50:34 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Bokababe; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; ...

We in the US can only pray our leaders regain their sanity.


9 posted on 01/09/2008 8:52:01 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: eleni121
Thanks for adding the link.

"The territorial integrity and sovereignty of Serbia must be preserved in accordance with the United Nations Charter, the 1975 Helsinki Agreement Final Act guaranteeing the boundaries of Europe, and UN Resolution 1244 of 1999, which guaranteed Serbia’s existing borders. "

That's one way, I suppose. A better approach is to reject the legitimacy of the UN. The same UN that is giving legitimacy to Kosovo independence.

10 posted on 01/09/2008 8:56:13 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Bokababe
...and destroying the system of the United Nations...

The United Nations was long destroyed before President Clinton got to it.

11 posted on 01/09/2008 10:13:45 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (It takes courage to grow up and turn out to be who you really are.)
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To: Bokababe
...Despite all this, U.S. Ambassador to Serbia Cameron Munter, while speaking on the occasion of the anniversary, pointed out that the Serbian-U.S. ties remain "very strong".

As I said (before) in such matters (e.g. Kosovo) the US is led by career-level bureaucrats - not by the elected officials.

12 posted on 01/10/2008 12:48:58 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

As I said (before) in such matters (e.g. Kosovo) the US is led by career-level bureaucrats - not by the elected officials.


You are right, I think.

When Max Weber theorized a rational bureacracy as a superor way to run organizations-specifically, the State -— he would never have imagined that his conception would be more recently described as:

“designed by a genius to be run by idiots” (Osborn and Plastrick)

Sounds like the idiots at Depts of state and defense and...have won out and the “genius” has long ago vanished.


13 posted on 01/10/2008 7:28:59 AM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic

Policy is also being dictated by pseudo academics mired in outdated historical contexts, mainly Condi Rice and her misguided Soviet centric paradigm. Broken record, broken policy...rinse and repeat.


14 posted on 01/10/2008 7:32:18 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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