Posted on 01/09/2008 6:50:58 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
Clinton y McCain apoyan la legalización N. Hampshire dio un respiro a la reforma
AFP John McCain, precandidato republicano, y Hillary Clinton, precandidata demócrata a la presidencia de Estados Unidos. Jorge Cancino, Univision Online*
9 de Enero de 2008
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Los ganadores de las elecciones primarias en el estado de New Hampshire, Hillary Clinton (demócrata) y John McCain (republicano), apoyan una reforma migratoria que incluya una vía de legalización para la mayoría de los indocumentados que vivan en Estados Unidos.
Pero han advertido que para ello, quienes califiquen deberán cumplir requisitos, entre ellos hablar inglés, pagar multas y carecer de antecedentes criminales, entre otros.
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(Excerpt) Read more at univision.com ...
As a Christian, I wonder about John 10:1.
“I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber”.
People are forgetting that the Presidential election is not occuring in a vacuum. McCain heading the ticket could depress conservative turnout, having an effect on the House and Senate races. I believe we have more Pubs up for re-election (and in danger of being replaced) than the Dums do. And if they push for amnesty right after the election, no one will feel much pressure to vote according to their constituency's will--there will be time for the sheeple to "forget" before the next election.
This is also why any conservative who thinks they can bring about the coming of the next Reagan by teaching our party and the country " a lesson" and giving them Jimmy Carter redux had better get that notion out of their head immediately and start fighting like there's no tomorrow--because there might not be one.
agreed,
there are not many conservatives in new england at all, I lived there for a few years and couldn’t wait to escape the lunacy, the censorship, the politics,etc etc
Now I’m in northern florida where we have a decent rep called mica though with all the liberals now moving down here I wonder how long northern florida will start to look like southern florida
“MCCAIN/HUCK TICKET IS THE AMNESTY EXPRESS ....”
True....but not to be ignored is the fact that amnesty/open borders advocate George P. Bush has chosen to team up with Fred Thompson. I suspect there is more the FDT’s illegal immigration plan than meets the eye...what has and isn’t being said, rather than what is being said now.
All of the neutral economists that have studied illegal immigration have proven that the impact is a small net negative in the short term. That leaves the uncertainty of continued illegal migration. Giving incentive to break our laws and putting the US on an uncertain long term, spending crisis is nuts. Plus the first people to get cut in business cycles are low skilled labor. We swell our natural unemployment and we grow our entitlement costs.
And at the heart of the problem is McCain and his double talk express—he want hispanic votes and he wants Republican votes—his immigration stance shatters his spending stance.
Liberals and moderates chose McCain. He lost those that strongly support Iraq. And he won those that strongly oppose Iraq. Same with the economy. He won those that oppose tax cuts!! Government spending in 1998 to 2000 was roughly 18% of GDP while revenue was 20% of GDP. There was no reason to avoid tax cuts during a recession and during a war! McCain voted against tax cuts.
>>Maybe you could do a screen capture on your pdf and paste it into a graphics prog.<<
Tried that but lost the text. pdf is weird.
Do think it is fine to let robbers into your neighbors house as well. Charity is for people to perform, NOT GOVERNMENTS. You want to help illegals, take 'em into your own house, but don't offer up mine as well which is EXACTLY what you are doing on a national scale. What do you call someone who gives away something that is not his to give? In your attempt at Christian charity (a very good thing BTW), you are committing an act of evil by imposing on the rest of a us a burden you have chosen for yourself, and that is not Christian, that is communism. I think most of us here have the ability to define what charitable acts we want to perform on our own. And what is this nonsense about hedonistic American citizens being replaced by their betters? That is awfully judgmental on your part, and I don't recall getting the memo that God has appointed you as his surrogate. I leave judgment to God and try to be kind to all his children, even the sinners. As long as we live in the world of men, it is imperative that we follow the laws set up by society up to the point that they are in complete defiance of God's law, and then we are to defy man's law and accept the consequences. I recall that Jesus said to "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God that which is God's". Christian charity is God's law set by his law to love one another. Immigration is man's law and is set by the will of the people by a government comprised of the same. Know the difference!
No, a Thompson or Romney will not approve an amnesty.
Wrong. The Dems will work with the RINOs and it will happen,
Even without the 66 million, the US population will approach half a billion by 2060, primarily due to immigration, legal and illegal.
McCain and Stem Cell Research Round-up
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II
U.S. Sen. John McCain is no War Hero
John McCain: The Manchurian Candidat
McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists
McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)
John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS
A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)
McCain Seeks to Change California Primary
McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero
Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)
Not Childs Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]
McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)
The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)
Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)
McCain: Global warming is fact, must be addressed [hurl alert]
McCain Looked into Caucusing with Democrats
McCain Still Disliked by Fiscal Conservatives (Club For Growth)
John McCain Goes Left for Money
McCain, Obama Make Deal on Financing
Sens. Snowe, Collins to head Maine exploratory committee for McCain
Double Talk Express. McCain in his own words. VIDEO
More YOUTUBE - McCain On Abortion (UH OH! YouTube Has a Video of Him in 1999)
The following links posted by raving nutter and lifted by me
How Cindy McCain was outed for drug addiction(stole drugs from the American Voluntary Medical Team)
John McCain: Hypocrite by Mark R. Levin
John McCain and the Kemper Marley organised crime network
McCain and his Chicom Connections: Posts #17 and #18 by Calpernia
More links I found...
TEN REASONS NOT TO SUPPORT MCCAIN (Free Republic thread from 2000)
It depends on the meaning of never (McCain's Convenient Memory) **NEW**
McCain Ties to Lobbyists Troublesome - Newsmax Staff
McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming (NH voter reminder ALERT
The Conservative Case Against John McCain In 2008
McCain Blames Bush For Osama's Escape ************************************************************************
Why don't you shut your political pie hole?
Stifling the www? Online Freedom of Speech Act (H.R. 1606)
"1606 is needed because federal courts have ordered the Federal Election Commission to regulate "electioneering communications" on the Internet because of the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act (McCain-Feingold). If H.R. 1606 fails to become law, your Web site or blog could be shut down for the 30 days prior to a primary election and the 60 days prior to a general election should you express "electioneering communications."
That the CIA controlled the North Vietnamese during the Vietnam War.
That the CIA created that war in a conspiracy to control the world.
That Kemper Marley and his organized crime network controlled not only Arizona but THE WORLD through their protégés in the Illuminati and Al Capone's operation.
That McCain is a puppet of this mobster network.
That former Supreme court Chief Justice Rehnquist was a part of this conspiracy.
That McCain has a father in law.
That Kemper Marley and his crime network controlled ALL of Arizona's Senators and Congressmen.
That Kemper Marley and Eugene Pullium started the Arizona Republic and the Phoenix Gazette to aid and conceal this massive conspiracy. And they were so slick that they did this BEFORE they were born.
That Bush 41, Dan Quayle and Colin Powell orchestrated the Gulf War as a part of this conspiracy which originated with King George II who was Colin Powell's grandpappy.
That Dan Quayle lived NEXT DOOR to Robert Welch who, with the John Birch Society, was part and parcel to the conspiracy for world domination for damage limitation.
That John McCain in ingrained in the webs and networks which are a part of the conspiracy to CONTROL THE WORLD.
None of this I would have known if you had not supplied me with this inside information on John McCain. I can't possibly tell you how much I appreciate your sanity, your insight, your intelligence, your perception. They are all in the best tradition of true troofers.
Oh, and just between you, me, and the whole world, YOU ARE NUCKIN' FUTS.
What the hell are you talking about? If you have a problem with any of my links then tell me which one. Any sane person can see by skimming the titles that you obviously didn’t get that from more than one or two. By the way I am going to continue to post them often until McCain drops out.
Also, your pubescent hyperbole is a little misplaced. I didn’t write a single one of those articles. I found them all posted here on FR.
I wish we could get some of those "God fearing immigrants" here. The immigrants we get here, in Dalton, are those who have no problem breaking into my country and stealing my tax dollars. Don't be foolish enough to believe you can get to Heaven by turning our country into a cesspool. God does not want that. If you feel sorry for those who have destroyed their countries, go help them straighten out their countries. Don't force the scum on me.
Never mind. I found the ONE article you were talking about. I missed that when I picked it up from someone else. It is now removed from my links. Anything else you’d like to rave like a lunatic about or do you want to settle back in your haze?
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