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Less Is More For Ford's New V-6 Engine [Federal Regs Kill the V-8]
Newhouse News ^
| 1/9/2008
| Robert Schoenberger
Posted on 01/09/2008 9:50:29 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible
I don’t suppose this bodes well for the V-10s like my wife and I have in our F250 and Excursion.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:03:07 AM PST
by
ElkGroveDan
(I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the politics in politics.)
To: Incorrigible
From my cold dead hands.......
![](http://www.miraresearch.org/events/2006%20corvette%20b.jpg)
Auto enthusiasts really need an NRA type organization. Anyone know of anything close?
To: KenHorse
Very nice. I especially like the one with the Mustang for sale in the background!
To: domenad
I think Ford’s best to motors ever were the last generation of the 302 and the 300ci In-Line 6.
But I drive pick ups.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:03:42 AM PST
by
Tenacious 1
(Racism? There are more than a million people in the world that want me dead because I am American!)
To: All
As a Mazda6/626 owner since 1985, I’m glad to see what the 2009 Mazda6 will look like...
(I’m always tickled to think about all the $30K+ Fords and Lincolns that are based on my $15K (after dickering) Mazda6!)
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:04:30 AM PST
by
duckworth
(Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
To: chrisser
My mom just sold her Lotus with a four cylinder that had a second gear beyond belief. Of course the cylinders were the diameter of an old steamship engine but man could that thing go.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:04:46 AM PST
by
Abathar
(Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
To: Hoffer Rand
Yea, the ‘stang was my ride before I bought the Z06!
(sold it at a loss just to get rid of it. A ‘stang ain’t no Vette!)
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:04:51 AM PST
by
KenHorse
(The Internet. Enabling the village idiot to become the global idiot with the click of the mouse)
To: Incorrigible
Think the F150 counts as a “big commercial truck”? If not my dad will be switching brands. He’s had 3 F150’s so far but won’t get rid of his V8 engine to stay in the Ford family.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:06:17 AM PST
by
Domandred
(Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
To: MeanWestTexan
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:06:57 AM PST
by
stephenjohnbanker
(Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
To: Incorrigible
Very nice car but Mazda is discontinuing for 2008 due to lack of interest.
I'm no accountant of true cost of horsepower.
Thus I do wonder if that extra $7,000 for an extra 27 horsepower
really is a reasonable deal for the consumer.
In other words, is Ford/Mazda's real extra cost more like $2,000
for the added hardware and research and they are just picking up
an extra sweet $5,000 profit?
I'n not slamming Ford/Mazda...just wondering what the dollar-and-cents
analysis of this extra dollar per horsepower situation means to
the car buyer and the manufacturer.
As for the competitiveness of some Mazda models, they lost my
mom last year when she was car shopping...about $3,000 more for
a Mazda as compared to a similar Toyota model.
(Of course, the question of whether there will be a Ford/Mazda
dealership/service out here in flyover country in a few years
also factored into the decision.)
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:07:05 AM PST
by
VOA
To: Tenacious 1
Do you think they would take that risk of low durability and warantee issues given their current economic situation?
I think not.
Again Audi, VW and Porsche are essentially doing the same thing with turbo and FSI and no one complains.
To: Incorrigible
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:09:59 AM PST
by
WOBBLY BOB
(I think I'll buy everyone a carbon credit for Christmas.)
To: Incorrigible
Oops!
I meant “an extra 27 percent horsepower”, not “27 extra horsepower”
in my post 30 above.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:10:15 AM PST
by
VOA
To: Incorrigible
Off-topic comment: Why does the Lincoln MKS look like a Pontiac? What were they thinking with that grille design???
To: taxcontrol
There are turbos now that instead of being driven by exhaust gases are driven by the crankshaft, much less lag than traditional turbos. Couple this with direct injection and you would essentially have a motor that can cruise a car on sub-100HP and burst to 200 plus easily and reliably.
I have a Cummins turbo diesel that is a daily driver at 235HP or so, flip a go button in the cab and it will dyno over 400RWHP and 900+ ft/lbs of torque.
The range of adjustability of an electronically controlled, direct injected, turbo charged engine is incredible.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:12:44 AM PST
by
IamConservative
(Only two have offered to die for a stranger; Jesus Christ and the American Soldier)
To: Incorrigible
Ford looks to be in a death spiral. Would you rather have an expensive Turbo6 in your Ford pickup, or a Toyota with a V8? (Hint: higher temperatures and pressures lead to shorter engine lives)
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:12:57 AM PST
by
PAR35
To: Incorrigible
I'm not an auto expert, but isn't Ford going about this the wrong way? I've got a fully loaded Ford F-150 4x4 pickup truck with the LARGER V-8 (5.7 liters), and I've averaged 16-17 miles per gallon (I can get better than 20 on the highway) since Day 1. The major factor in this case is the transmission (it's got a low gear ratio that makes it run more efficiently at highway speeds), not the engine size.
Why don't some of these auto manufacturers simply take their existing engines and add another gear (5th, 6th, or even 7th) to improve fuel economy?
Conversely, the auto industry could push the U.S. government to do one thing that would probably be quite effective in improving overall fuel efficiency: Increase the number of vehicles with manual transmissions on the road. This isn't a bad idea at all . . . if Congress is going to force people to drive certain types of cars to meet these fuel standards, they might as well force them to drive cars that require a driver who -- well, KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:13:21 AM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
To: Incorrigible
God gave us the V-8 to let us know that he loved us, and that everything would be OK.
For example, I am the owner of a 2003 Cobra Mustang: Double over head cam and factory supercharger. It delivers 400 HP to the rear wheels, and on my last long driving trip I registered 28 MPG! Hah! It even has a factory boost meter for the blower. 6-speed standard shift is, well, standard.
I love to hear that blower spool up on the DC beltway.
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:13:51 AM PST
by
RexBeach
("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
To: taxcontrol
So, Congress either wants you to have less fun or is willing to sacrifice the lives of its citizensYou're being entirely too close-minded. They could very easily want both!
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:15:00 AM PST
by
wbill
To: IamConservative
“There are turbos now that instead of being driven by exhaust gases are driven by the crankshaft, much less lag than traditional turbos.”
Those are not new. They’re called “superchargers.”
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posted on
01/09/2008 10:17:17 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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