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Evangelicals Against Mitt
The American Spectator ^ | 1/3/2008 | Carrie Sheffield

Posted on 01/08/2008 4:09:13 PM PST by tantiboh

Mitt Romney is facing an unexpected challenge in Iowa from rival Mike Huckabee, who has enjoyed a groundswell of support from religious voters, particularly evangelical Christians wary of the clean-cut former Massachusetts governor because of his Mormon religion.

The common worry among evangelicals is that if Romney were to capture the White House, his presidency would give legitimacy to a religion they believe is a cult. Since the LDS church places heavy emphasis on proselytizing -- there are 53,000 LDS missionaries worldwide -- many mainstream Christians are afraid that Mormon recruiting efforts would increase and that LDS membership rolls would swell.

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THE ONLY PROBLEM with those fears is that they don't add up. Evangelicals may be surprised to learn that the growth of church membership in Massachusetts slowed substantially during Romney's tenure as governor. In fact, one could make the absurdly simplistic argument that Romney was bad for Mormonism.

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ONE WAY TO GAUGE what might happen under a President Romney would be to look at what happened during the period of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. Held in Salt Lake City, they were dubbed the "Mormon Olympics."

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Despite all the increased attention, worldwide the Church grew only slightly, and in fact in the year leading up to the games the total number of congregations fell. Overall, from 2000 to 2004, there was a 10.9 percent increase in memberships and a 3.6 percent increase in congregations.

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The LDS church is likely to continue its current modest-but-impressive growth whether or not Romney wins the White House. Perhaps the only real worry for evangelicals is that, if elected, the former Massachusetts governor will demonstrate to Americans that Mormons don't have horns.

Carrie Sheffield, a member of the LDS Church, is a writer living in Washington, D.C.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: election; ia2008; lds; mormon; romney
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To: LeGrande
And people wonder why I am an Atheist?

No one wonders why - what we wonder is WHY you waste your time talking to religious people?

1,981 posted on 01/29/2008 5:00:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
God has promised to answer us.

It appears to me that your problem is that you have no space in your theology for UNANSWERED prayer.

1,982 posted on 01/29/2008 5:02:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser; greyfoxx39; FastCoyote; P-Marlowe; aMorePerfectUnion
So, Like I said, Mormons do not believe that God had sex with Mary.
1,983 posted on 01/29/2008 5:04:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
A Because it's long and I am trying to cut down the Size of my posts.

HA Ha ha!


Click the mouse button a few times, it won't hurt you.

No thanks; the jury will note that the opposing counsel is lazy and does not want to defend what he has claimed.

1,984 posted on 01/29/2008 5:06:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
I guess fairies, if they existed could be logical...

 
Number #11...

 
How Mormon's deal with data presented to them by those they call ANTI's:

  1. How you interpret it is wrong...
  2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member....
  3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member...
  4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ...
  5. So’s yer Mama!
  6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image.  
  7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice!
  8. Bait & Switch
  9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding.
10. "I Know It When I See It"
11. Hand waving...

 


1,985 posted on 01/29/2008 5:08:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JaneNC
“Evangelicals against the Huckster , who are not bigoted”

Not quite...

“Mormons against the Huckster, who are not bigoted”

1,986 posted on 01/29/2008 5:09:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DelphiUser
Badly, the logic still stands, the assertion that goes with it still stands, the Tomatoes and eggs thrown by anit's wash off easily.

Yet another failure by the defense to show proof.

1,987 posted on 01/29/2008 5:19:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tantiboh

THANK YOU!!! The link you provided is most interesting and I plan to read it all when I have time. I also plan to share with likeminded friends.


1,988 posted on 01/29/2008 5:48:49 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Diamond
Why are you an Atheist?

It was simply a gradual disbelief in small things until there was nothing left.

I try and take as little on faith as I can. I try to follow where the preponderance of evidence leads.

1,989 posted on 01/29/2008 6:45:46 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: JaneNC

~”I think we should start a group:
“Evangelicals against the Huckster , who are not bigoted””~

There are quite a few of you out there. Wouldn’t hurt to start organizing to counteract the fools who misrepresent you.


1,990 posted on 01/29/2008 7:00:27 AM PST by tantiboh
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

My pleasure.


1,991 posted on 01/29/2008 7:01:31 AM PST by tantiboh
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To: Elsie

placemark


1,992 posted on 01/29/2008 7:08:28 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Salvation is NOT a value-added enterprise by making you pay for it. Christ gives it away free.)
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To: Elsie
No one wonders why - what we wonder is WHY you waste your time talking to religious people?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If you think my purpose is to sway or influence you anti Mormon Cabal members then your question would be valid.

My purpose is to help make you look foolish and try and shine a little light on your beliefs and how hollow they are. If the PM that I get is any indication, then I am succeeding beyond my expectations.

I also find it interesting trying to understand how single minded zealots like yourself try to perceive reality. What makes a suicide bomber tick? It seems to be an ability to focus and ignore parts of the real world that don't fit into your preconceived mental map.

My question is why do you waste your time attacking the Mormon faith? The primary rule of advertising is to not mention the competitor, unless you are the unknown product. Every post you and your fellow Cabal members make simply promotes the Mormon cause. Are you insane?

1,993 posted on 01/29/2008 7:09:58 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: All

I would like to be the first on this thread to congratulate Mitt Romney, an upstanding/moral man for his victory in
Floriday tonight. Romney, despite the efforts of all his haters, pulled out an impressive win. To all of those disappointed “in your friggin’ face”. lol. When ya’ll mourn for awhile we’ll take ya back into the fold. No probs.


1,994 posted on 01/29/2008 8:05:04 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: LeGrande; Elsie
My question is why do you waste your time attacking the Mormon faith? The primary rule of advertising is to not mention the competitor, unless you are the unknown product. Every post you and your fellow Cabal members make simply promotes the Mormon cause. Are you insane?

Excellent point. I keep bringing up the fact that I've seen the same tired ol' bashers on the Mormon bashing Polemic threads over in the religious department for 10 years now and not once has one been able to mark a notch on their Kingeth Jameth for a successful conversion.

I seriously doubt that evangelism is the motivation anyway I think its just a venting outlet.

1,995 posted on 01/29/2008 8:14:44 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: DelphiUser

Yes, quite the extensive fairy ‘tail’ Joe plagarized together to garner his empowerment.


1,996 posted on 01/29/2008 8:45:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: tantiboh

“At the time, Romney said he didn’t ‘line up with the NRA.’ But when he decided to run for president, Romney signed up for a lifetime membership in the National Rifle Association.”

I’ve been a Life NRA Member for years.

What disappoints me the most about Mitt Romney is he appears to be a slick opportunist. To become a Life NRA Member when you decide to run for President, for the sake of pure political expediency is quite frankly disgusting.

This shifting of political positions (gay marriage, guns, murder through abortion) demonstrates a foundation of quicksand instead of solid bedrock. This is by a man now in his 60’s, not some kid in their early 20’s. We don’t need a President who is trying to decide which side of major moral issues are right and just - the Holy Bible provides a sure foundation on moral issues that is solid and never to be compromised.

I will not vote for Mr. Romney.


1,997 posted on 01/29/2008 8:47:20 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: Elsie
I Said: God has promised to answer us.

U Said: It appears to me that your problem is that you have no space in your theology for UNANSWERED prayer.

God always answers, sometimes we aren't listening, sometimes we are so distant from him that we can't hear him, but is is us the have moved and need to move Back and God who always answers for he is unchanging and no respecter of persons.

Your problem seems to be that you believe Satan can keep God from answering prayers, and answer in God's stead, thus you seem to believe Satan is more powerful than God. If anyone Believes Satan is more powerful than God, then to them, Satan is God. It scares me that anyone could believe that.
1,998 posted on 01/29/2008 8:50:26 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: tantiboh
Moving the goalposts?

Sorry that won't fly...as I've been saying since day one...it's the PERCENTAGE that matters. Because what LD$, Inc. gives away to charity isn't even a drop in the ocean, in comparison to their NET income.

Sorry, I’m not playing your game.

And we both know why, don't we. You don't want to come to grips with what LD$, Inc. is all about. Because it's easier not knowing....

1,999 posted on 01/29/2008 8:50:33 AM PST by Osage Orange ("Bill Clinton is an unusually good liar" - Bob Kerry)
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To: DelphiUser; Elsie
So if the plates existed, they used the more physically compact writing.

There are no plates, so you are trying to present something that isn't verifiable as fact - assuming that the bom is real. Circular logic at its best.

2,000 posted on 01/29/2008 9:01:40 AM PST by Godzilla (I may be schizophrenic, but at least I'll always have each other.)
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