Stop touching me there!
What is frequently heard in Temple Ceremonies...
Posted on 01/08/2008 4:09:13 PM PST by tantiboh
Mitt Romney is facing an unexpected challenge in Iowa from rival Mike Huckabee, who has enjoyed a groundswell of support from religious voters, particularly evangelical Christians wary of the clean-cut former Massachusetts governor because of his Mormon religion.
The common worry among evangelicals is that if Romney were to capture the White House, his presidency would give legitimacy to a religion they believe is a cult. Since the LDS church places heavy emphasis on proselytizing -- there are 53,000 LDS missionaries worldwide -- many mainstream Christians are afraid that Mormon recruiting efforts would increase and that LDS membership rolls would swell.
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THE ONLY PROBLEM with those fears is that they don't add up. Evangelicals may be surprised to learn that the growth of church membership in Massachusetts slowed substantially during Romney's tenure as governor. In fact, one could make the absurdly simplistic argument that Romney was bad for Mormonism.
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ONE WAY TO GAUGE what might happen under a President Romney would be to look at what happened during the period of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. Held in Salt Lake City, they were dubbed the "Mormon Olympics."
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Despite all the increased attention, worldwide the Church grew only slightly, and in fact in the year leading up to the games the total number of congregations fell. Overall, from 2000 to 2004, there was a 10.9 percent increase in memberships and a 3.6 percent increase in congregations.
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The LDS church is likely to continue its current modest-but-impressive growth whether or not Romney wins the White House. Perhaps the only real worry for evangelicals is that, if elected, the former Massachusetts governor will demonstrate to Americans that Mormons don't have horns.
Carrie Sheffield, a member of the LDS Church, is a writer living in Washington, D.C.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
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This headline should read —Evangelicals Against Mitt’s Religion—
Kind-a-like a left wing misleading headline that this news[?] source used.
Settle down, Dan. I don’t think DO’s questions are in anything but good faith. Let’s not be defensive until such time as we’ve reason to be.
That leads to studying what was believed by the Apostolic Christians who were being taught by the Apostles of that time.
In those instances where the doctrine has changed, we need to acknowledge that. For instance, how many still believe in the practice of selling indulgences as was done at the time of Martin Luther?
As an example of what I’ve described to you, I invite you to review post #1156.
It isn't DO that concerns me. I took that as a serious inquiry to my beliefs.
These are beliefs that are close to my heart, and I am hesitant to express myself this way.
It isn't that I am ashamed of my belief in Christ, it is that it is so personal that I do want my belief in Christ to be mocked.
I don't want my belief in Christ to be mocked.
Ann Coulter incorrectly stated in her Jan 16, 2008 column that the Massachusetts Citizens For Life “endorsed” Mitt Romney. She has used their endorsement as part of her own basis for her endorsement of Romney. MCFL denies any such endorsement.
My inquiry to them, and thir subsequent response are pasted below.
Hello Mr. Private Name Omitted Here,
I apologize for the delay in replying to your email!
Ms. Coutler’s choice of wording in her column was somewhat inaccurate in describing the relationship between MCFL and Mitt Romney. As a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, MCFL cannot “endorse” candidates for public office. Most likely Ms. Coulter was referring to the award Gov. Romney received from the Pioneer Valley Chapter of MCFL, which was given to him at the chapter’s annual Mother’s Day dinner last May.
MCFL strives to collect and disseminate information regarding the voting records and public statements of candidates for public office before elections in order to help our members make an informed choice when voting. We are continually monitoring the statements of the current presidential candidates and informing our membership as much as we can.
Currently, of the major Republican candidates still in the race at this point, only Rudy Giuliani has expressed explicit pro-choice views. Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney and John McCain all support the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
As the election draws closer, please continue to check back with us for the most recent information available.
Thanks for contacting us!
~MJE~
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Mark Estano
Executive/Legislative Aide
617-242-4199, ext. 224
mestano@masscitizensforlife.org
Same here, unless there is someone else left in the running that I perceive might do it better. That would leave out Huck, McCain, Guliani, and all the Dems.
Romney is the only one left in the race on either side who hasn't demonstrated blatantly anti-American sentiments and ambitions on the national front.
~”Romney is the only one left in the race on either side who hasn’t demonstrated blatantly anti-American sentiments and ambitions on the national front.”~
Well, to be fair, Giuliani has been quite good on that front. He’s just a social liberal. What he has over Huckabee and McCain is that he isn’t trying to hide his liberalism, and he’s courting the conservative vote in spite of it. Huckabee and McCain are tying to liberal their way to the nomination.
Personally, I would find Giuliani to be the most palatable choice if Romney were to be removed from the picture. It’s a sad state that we’ve come to that, but there you have it.
Still, Romney is doing well. I think there’s at least a 75% chance at this point that he will be the nominee.
I agree, Free Masonry is a Fraternal Organization that only requires a belief in God and the acceptance of certain principals. People of many religions are Free Masons. For many, Masonry would define as a religion. Among those holding that view is the Catholic Church. Thats why there is the Knights of Columbus. I’m not into semantics. I’m pointing out that because a man is a member of a church or organization does not automatically constitute grounds to preclude him from office.
No one said it did. However, a man who is unwilling to question his church should be suspect and a man who is unwilling to tell the truth about his church is suspect. I think Romney's unwillingness to admit his church was wrong for not ordaining blacks is rather suspicious. I have also found that Mormons are very reluctant to talk specifics when it comes to their church. We saw that with the "Jesus brother of Satan" issue.
It doesn't bother me that Joseph Smith said that all other churches were apostate. I understand that. I get really uncomfortable when Mormons say he didn't say it.
Lol. I can’t think of a more appropriately titled thread for you to be hanging out in. I bet it feels like home. This is rich. lol.
To be brutally honest, I will not vote for Romney because of his Morman beliefs...
I can not vote for anyone who thinks he/she has replaced Israel in the spiritual sense...
This country MUST defend Israel...Not just because Israel is an ally in the Middle East, but Because the Jews are still God’s chosen people...
Bu then I’m an equal opportunity bigot...
I would not vote for a homosexual for President...A communist, I would not vote for...
There’s lots of folks I won’t vote for...And after looking at what’s left, I wouldn’t mind skipping elections this time...We may be far better off without a President for a while...
Great. We'd be far better off without ya. thanx.
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHICHAPTER 224 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
Or even HERE:
1 Timothy 3:2-3
2. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3. not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.1 Timothy 3:12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.Titus 1:6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTSSECTION 13251–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
It may be something like "Elsie".
It is a shortened version of...
"Elsie the Great"
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