Posted on 01/06/2008 5:09:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Sorry, Rudy: If an immigration reform bill allows illegal aliens to stay in the country and become citizens, it's amnesty, even if they have to pay a financial penalty. Fred Thompson spells it out in last night's WMUR-Facebook-ABC debate:
(Here's a transcript of the ABC Democrat debate. Here's a transcript of the ABC Republican debate.)
Earlier today on NBC's Today Show, Thompson responded to yet another stupid "when ya gonna drop out" question by refocusing on his key issues -- addressing the threat of terrorism and the looming entitlement crisis. When reporter Lester Holt pressed, Thompson took a shot at the mainstream media for uncritically broadcasting a rumor of his impending withdrawal, a rumor that likely was started by a campaign that stood to benefit by knocking Fred down by a few points.
FRED THOMPSON: I'm not going to engage in that -- further beating the process issue to death. We're talking about the future of our country here and the fact that our worst enemies are trying to get their hands on nuclear weapons and we're bankrupting the next generation. That's what I'm talking about. The rest is all speculation and I don't engage in it. HOLT: It's a fair point you make; you don't engage in it. But you were the victim of some rumors on this subject of your viability and questions if you would drop out. How much did that hurt you?
THOMPSON: Well let's think about that. It did hurt me, and the media lapped it up. It was put out by another campaign; made no sense at all.
HOLT: Which campaign?
THOMPSON: A few days before the election and made no sense at all, and I was coming strong, and the media took it up, and spread the rumor, and probably cost me two or three points in Iowa. So the lesson there is not, you know, politicians being politicians. The lesson there is that the news media really ought to check these stories out and come to me, and ask me, and take my word for it.
One commenter at the previous link wrote, "I would consider voting for Fred just for the entertainment value of watching him spend four years slapping around the drooling half-wits in the MSM."
By the way, Fred Thompson is in second place in the delegate count. Yesterday, twelve Republican county conventions in Wyoming elected the first twelve delegates to the Republican National Convention. The voters in these county conventions were the committeeman and committeewoman for each precinct, plus delegates selected by precinct meetings in December.
Eight counties elected a Mitt Romney supporter to represent them in the Twin Cities, three counties elected a Fred Thompson supporter as delegate, and one county chose a Duncan Hunter supporter. Two more delegates will be elected at the Republican state convention on May 31.
One delegate-electing county (Laramie) also elected an alternate delegate, and the eleven counties that didn't elect delegates each elected an alternate. Of the twelve alternates, five support Romney, one each support Thompson, McCain, and Hunter, and four are uncommitted. An alternate only gets to vote at the national convention if his corresponding delegate is unavailable.
The Wyoming delegates are not bound to stay with their announced preference, unlike many states (e.g. Oklahoma) where delegates are bound to support a candidate based on the primary election result. Nevertheless, the candidates for national delegate announced their presidential preference in their speeches to the county conventions, which undoubtedly influenced the result.
No national delegates were selected at Iowa's caucuses on Thursday, and the results of the Republican straw poll will likely bear no resemblance to the preferences of the 37 national delegates who will be elected at the Iowa state convention on June 14.
(A tip of the hat and a deep bow to The Green Papers, a website which has, since its founding in 1999, devoted itself to providing the nitty-gritty details about the process that the mainstream media glosses over.)
Yup funny. Of course you never will hear it either.
I like the line about “drooling half wits in the MSM”. he he
One commenter at the previous link wrote, “I would consider voting for Fred just for the entertainment value of watching him spend four years slapping around the drooling half-wits in the MSM.”
I am voting for Fred Thompson. I could hardly wait for him to announce but I realize Fred has a well thought out plan so its been worth the wait. Now I just want to see him elected I have a feeling he will be slapping a lot of people around. Fred pulls no punches. GO FRED GO!
Just look at where media money comes from. It comes from sponsors and many of those sponsors are the same companies that want illegal aliens.
On immigration, Hunter’s criticism of Thompson over this issue is well aimed. We need someone in the white house who isn’t a johnny-come-lately on this issue.
Road to Des Moines Conversions on Immigration (Hunter Press release)
News Which Cannot Lose ^ | 10/25/07 | Duncan Hunter/staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1916889/posts
Moving into New Hampshire, the only republicans who have more delegates than Duncan Hunter are Romney and Thompson. No delegates were actually selected in Iowa.
The New Hampshire GOP withdrew its sponsorship of yesterday’s debate.
According to this article, there were no delegates selected in Iowa.
First G.O.P. Delegate Goes to Romney (Romney, Hunter Leading in WY)
New York Times ^ | January 5, 2008 | MEAD GRUVER
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/us/politics/05cnd-wyoming.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1199563235-58hBRHoYXSVDHcyr25G/Fw&oref=slogin
“Wyoming chose the first 12 delegates of 2008 at 12 separate county conventions. Iowa Republicans, who have 40 delegates, conducted a straw poll but elected no convention delegates Thursday.”
So, that means that Romney has the most delegates (8), Fred has 3 and Hunter has 1, going into New Hampshire. I see now that Hunter was wise not to campaign in Iowa, and where he did choose to campaign he drew blood. You get more bang for the buck with Hunter.
The fact that he’s being excluded from New Hampshire debates is probably a historical first. This is a conservative website and Hunter is a conservative candidate. The GOP is late in waking up to the fact that the media hates conservatives.
Basically, it’s a wide open race, with the lead changing on a weekly basis. Might as well support the truest conservative, Hunter.
IA does not actually assign delegates until May; but if you look at the proportional disposition of both WY and IA, it is
Mitt 17
Huck 13
Fred 8
McCain 5
Paul 4
Guliani 1
Undeclared/unknown 5
Note also that both WY and FL lost half their delegates because they moved their primaries up.
Because the delegates selected later in Iowa are bound to the Jan 3 results, they are effectively designated for the first round. R 26 H 20 T 6 M 3 P 2 H 1 G 1 is the count of committed delegates. Fred is in 2nd in named delegates.
Will someone be keeping a delegate count? Are the Wyoming delegates added in?
Or even on Fox News Channel!
Fred bump.
Thank you. So many numbers, so many primaries!!
Nah, the MSM wouldn't do that; it would be too much like WORK!
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