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Mitt's Divided Strategy (Thompson Rumors Traced to Romney)
Townhall ^ | 5-Jan-08 | Robert Novak

Posted on 01/05/2008 2:39:49 PM PST by Jay777

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To: SkyPilot

As for Romney, he continues to set low expectations for integrity, and then fails to live up to them.

He can go blast off to the Mormon planet Kolob anytime now.

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TO ALL WHO WANT TO HELP US TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT CHRIST AND HOW HE GUIDES HIS PEOPLE ON EARTH.

If this thread is like most others that have anything to do with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or as we are more often called, the Mormons, it will soon be taken over by those who, for reasons of their own, choose to put down my Church, and those of us who worship with it.

We find no problem with people who really want to talk to us about converting to their religion, we spend a lot of time doing it ourselves.

What we find offensive is when people leave out part of the truth to make a half-true lie , or when some one renames something, that we find important or sacred, so it sounds like gutter talk.

I do not know how to tell the difference all the time. There are some Handles that keep showing up, and they are easy to spot. Sometimes, though, I have given a hard and not so kind response to some who honestly care for us and our salvation.

Please forgive us if we get you mixed up.

Thanks for your time,
fred


101 posted on 01/06/2008 5:14:47 PM PST by fproy2222
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To: fproy2222; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; Elsie; Colofornian
Please answer one simple question then.

1. Is there a planet Kolob?


102 posted on 01/06/2008 5:26:35 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: fproy2222
Are you the poster who posted the following?... You seriously expect to have any credibility with posts like the following? Your Mormon agenda is too transparent so stop trying to trick people into seeing you as all innocent and a victim!

LDS defend the faith as Christian ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1908158/posts )
Posted by fproy2222 to MHGinTN
On Religion ^ 10/26/2007 5:59:01 AM EDT · 896 of 1,468 ^

The foundations of Mormonism are lies and fabrication that have been proven fabrications from imagination of one Joseph Smith. The book of mormon can not stand up against archaeology or genetics.
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You do know that there are writings by an eye witness who knew Jesus and Marry and also knew who the roman solider who really fathered jesus, He also has first hand knowledge as to how Marry lied to her husband to be so he would still take her to be hi wife.
By this account of a first hand witness, your church and your savior are all something made up by the mother of a basterd. It is All BASED ON A LIE.
Your church is a lie.
It is proven by an eye witness.
Why is he wrong and you are right?
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LDS defend the faith as Christian ^
Posted by fproy2222 to beachdweller
On Religion ^ 10/26/2007 6:15:06 AM EDT · 899 of 1,468 ^
What are you talking about? I have heard of this accusation by anti-Christians but it has no historical authority and certainly is not documented in any authentic way. You are just trying to bash Jesus based on nothing but anti-Christian speculation.
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He is an eye witness and he must have the same authority as the eyewitness against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have.
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LDS defend the faith as Christian ^
Posted by fproy2222 to xzins
On Religion ^ 10/26/2007 7:42:06 AM EDT · 917 of 1,468 ^
I don’t understand your post. Would you please rephrase it? Thanks.
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Back when the inspired writings were compiled into the cannon of the bible, someone or a group of someones decided witch works became part of the cannon of scripture and what writings were to be left out.
If, as so many say, the bible is true and God has kept it that way, then these people were agents of God, or Prophets for the rest of us..
But the same people do not believe in prophets after Peter, James, and John. So, if there have been no more prophets, how can this work of God be true and accurate, or at least complete. Or did the bible come only from good men doing good things.
Now, someone has decided what the writings in the cannon of the bible says and means. Are they just good men doing good things and subject to the mistakes of man, or are they prophets of God telling us how to believe.
And if they do not clam the authority of God, then the best they can be are good men , with the limitations of men.
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LDS defend the faith as Christian ^ Posted by fproy2222 to xzins
On Religion ^ 10/26/2007 2:49:35 PM EDT · 957 of 1,468 ^
you said, and i am copying and pasting your words;;
I would certainly add an absolutely proven writing of one of the apostles to the bible. Others have argued with me over that one, but I am subject to the Apostles by instruction of Jesus Christ.
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are you now saying you did not say it?
you also said;;;;;;;;
I’m saying that writings of the Apostolic Eyewitnesses who associated with Jesus in the Palestine of roughly 0-35 AD would be legitimate scripture
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And what about the eyewitness who knew Marry and the Roman solider who fathered Jesus. He lived during the time of Christ and wrote just after His death.
To you, why is his first hand testimony not as true as those you choose to believe.

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103 posted on 01/06/2008 7:35:01 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Second, the rumor may have been intended as a warning to fred supporters who might stay home — that if they didn’t show up in big numbers, Thompson might quit.

About the dumbest argument I've seen. You don't reinforce the negatives perceptions of others of your campaign to get airtime. Mitt isn't talking about the various anomalies of Mormonism. Huckabee isn't talking about the fact that he's a moron. FDT would have never released a rumor saying he's going to quit when the largest negative perception of his campaign is that it hasn't quite started yet.

104 posted on 01/06/2008 8:17:33 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Jay777

And yet this is a rumor also.


105 posted on 01/06/2008 8:24:16 PM PST by Mitt Romney (Romney 2008)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
At some point, this story which was about what other people THOUGHT fred would do got turned into a suggestion that the campaign had made a decision. But the article specifically says otherwise.

Which is not a news story. Anymore than what you or I "think" will happen. It was a smear against a campaign dressed up as fact with some nice Clintonian language to dress it up. My money's actually on Huck trying to siphon off some Evangelicals for Fred to keep his margin with Romney. There is some sort of connection between Huck and the Reporter who did the story.

106 posted on 01/06/2008 8:25:51 PM PST by the808bass
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To: MHGinTN; fproy2222; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; Elsie
Good research MHG.

fproy2222 posted on 10/26/07:

You do know that there are writings by an eye witness who knew Jesus and Marry and also knew who the roman solider who really fathered jesus, He also has first hand knowledge as to how Marry lied to her husband to be so he would still take her to be hi wife. By this account of a first hand witness, your church and your savior are all something made up by the mother of a basterd. It is All BASED ON A LIE. Your church is a lie.

Good gravy. That could have been posted on a "Paganism Today" newsletter.

So much for Christ's words that even the gates of Hell would not prevail against His church.

According to Mormons, there was never any church to begin with.

I might infer that the LDS church has dropped the "We are Christians too!" strategy.

But don't worry - I am still waiting to hear the answer about the planet Kolob.

107 posted on 01/07/2008 3:17:14 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

You are STILL trapped in that tar??


108 posted on 01/07/2008 6:07:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jay777

Just one more sleazy nail in the coffin of the man who combs his hair with olive oil and a fork.


109 posted on 01/07/2008 6:08:19 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: SkyPilot
QUICK

Find out what that clown has been smoking, drinking, and/or injecting.

We can make a killing by selling his stash.

110 posted on 01/07/2008 6:36:39 AM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: MHGinTN; SkyPilot; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; Elsie
Are you the poster who posted the following?... You seriously expect to have any credibility with posts like the following? Your Mormon agenda is too transparent so stop trying to trick people into seeing you as all innocent and a victim!

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And your transparent anti-Mormon campaign is not easy to see through.

The answers that have come back from these questions show just how weak you and your, hard core, put the Mormons down group are.

Before you pick on my church again, I think that you and the others should be able to prove your thinkings about God.

WITHOUT USING THE BIBLE, PROVE THERE IS A GOD.

111 posted on 01/07/2008 7:50:20 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: SkyPilot; MHGinTN; greyfoxx39; Zakeet; Elsie
Good research MHG.
fproy2222 posted on 10/26/07:

You do know that there are writings by an eye witness who knew Jesus and Marry and also knew who the roman solider who really fathered jesus, He also has first hand knowledge as to how Marry lied to her husband to be so he would still take her to be hi wife. By this account of a first hand witness, your church and your savior are all something made up by the mother of a basterd. It is All BASED ON A LIE. Your church is a lie.

Good gravy. That could have been posted on a “Paganism Today” newsletter.

So much for Christ’s words that even the gates of Hell would not prevail against His church.

According to Mormons, there was never any church to begin with.

I might infer that the LDS church has dropped the “We are Christians too!” strategy.

But don’t worry - I am still waiting to hear the answer about the planet Kolob.

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The answers that have come back from these questions show just how weak you and your, hard core, put the Mormons down group are.

Before you pick on my church again, I think that you and the others should be able to prove your thinkings about God.

WITHOUT USING THE BIBLE, PROVE THERE IS A GOD.

112 posted on 01/07/2008 7:50:44 AM PST by fproy2222
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WITHOUT USING THE BIBLE, PROVE THERE IS A GOD.

I'll let my friend Ravi Zacharias answer for me.

Ravi Zacharias "Postures of the Mind"

Bertrand's Claim Won't Work With God

The truth is frproy2222; you cannot find the real Jesus Christ for the same reason as a thief cannot find a policeman.

I am still waiting for the answer on the Planet Kolob.

113 posted on 01/07/2008 8:01:30 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Jay777

I think the Romney camp believes Fred’s supports will move to him.


114 posted on 01/07/2008 8:02:34 AM PST by rintense (Ab)
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To: Andy'smom

I agree. I don’t trust McCain at all.


115 posted on 01/07/2008 8:06:50 AM PST by rintense (Thompson / Hunter 2008!)
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To: SkyPilot
The unregenerate mind cannot comprehend that God set in motion a spacetime realm with which He is involved yet has chosen the realm to function in such a way that He doesn't reveal so much of Himself that it compels belief. Such a revelation would be counter to the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ Jesus aimed for our spirit rather than our bodies.

God can create a new universe with different constants and variability whenever He chooses and has left word that He is going to do just that once the expression of the spirit dimensionality has expressed sufficiently for His purposes. He has even left for us hints that a realm exists no more than an arm's length away which is real yet unfathomable unless God reach from there to our here.

It is not surprising that the Mormonism apologist demands Christians prove there is God; the unregenerate cult mind lacks the eyes to see what is evidenced in the universe around it and the promises of God [Romans]. Such a mind will fall for cleverly devised copies, as we are warned in the New Testament.

It is so sad to watch that video of Ravi sharing the burden God's Spirit placed upon his heart for the Mormon faithful because the Mormons used him to further the false religion they so cherish, purveying tolerance of their heresies with the presence of a Spirit filled man bringing to them the message of God's Grace in Christ in opposition to 'all that you can do'. I wonder how many of the Christian visitors understood the gargantuan spiritual struggle occurring in their midst that evening?

116 posted on 01/07/2008 8:21:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SkyPilot

The truth is frproy2222; you cannot find the real Jesus Christ for the same reason as a thief cannot find a policeman.

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prove it. You are a “Real Christian” should be easy for you.


117 posted on 01/07/2008 9:05:59 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: rintense

I think the Romney camp is delusional if they actually believe that.


118 posted on 01/07/2008 9:07:56 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: SkyPilot
I found it interesting that the author of “Bertrand’s Claim Won’t Work With God” said things, that if true, prove that James White, author of “to our mormon brother’s” series, is wrong.

You people cannot agree with yourselves, why should anyone else believe you?

119 posted on 01/07/2008 9:10:30 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: MHGinTN

It is not surprising that the Mormonism apologist

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You only have apologists, and conflicting ones at that.


120 posted on 01/07/2008 9:12:22 AM PST by fproy2222
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