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Judge Imposes Stricter Rules on Navy to Protect Marine Life (limits Navy use of medium-range sonar)
NY Times ^ | January 5, 2008 | CAROLYN MARSHALL

Posted on 01/05/2008 12:31:05 AM PST by neverdem

SAN FRANCISCO — A federal judge has ordered the Navy to adopt stringent new safeguards intended to improve protection of whales and dolphins during its sonar training exercises off Southern California.

The ruling, issued Thursday by Judge Florence-Marie Cooper of the United States District Court for the Central District of California, orders the Navy to limit its use of medium-range sonar to an area beyond 12 nautical miles from shore. Closer to the shore, marine mammals have exhibited frenzied and disoriented behavior during the emissions of sonar blasts as part of the Navy’s practice missions.

Judge Cooper’s order also outlined safeguards, which include a monitoring session one hour before a military exercise to detect the presence of marine mammals, the use of trained aerial lookouts throughout exercises and a mandatory sonar shutdown when mammals are spotted within 2,200 yards of training maneuvers.

The ruling stems from a long-running legal battle between environmental groups, led by the Natural Resources Defense Council, and the Navy, which has argued that mid-frequency sonar is vital to the training of submarine seamen and other crews who now face a new generation of quiet submarines that cannot be detected by traditional passive sonar waves.

A spokesman at the Pentagon said Friday that the Navy was reviewing the judge’s ruling to determine its next move, which could include an appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

“Despite the care the court took in crafting its order,” said the spokesman, Cmdr. Jeff Davis of the Navy, “we do not believe it struck the right balance between national security and environmental concerns.”

The Navy, Commander Davis said, remains especially concerned over the larger safety buffer zone now offered to protect marine mammals. Additionally, he said, Navy experts worry that some restrictions may make it...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: animalwhackos; envirowackos; envirowhackos; gramsci; marinelife; nationalsecurity; navy; science; sonar; stuckonstupid; subversion; usn; usnavy
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1 posted on 01/05/2008 12:31:08 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Hmmm... The Navy reports to the Commander in Chief...

Now as I recall, that is an independent branch of Government. So as I see it, the Fed court here has definitely over reached from a Constitutional standpoint...

As one famous President once said... Now let them enforce their ruling...

2 posted on 01/05/2008 1:17:23 AM PST by drc43 (Defeat is slipping from our grasp... Nancy Pelosi)
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To: drc43
"As one famous President once said... Now let them enforce their ruling..."

How many nuclear subs does the Supreme Court have?

3 posted on 01/05/2008 1:22:36 AM PST by joebuck
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If the Navy is three miles from the US shore....the US courts have no jurisdiction anyway.

Should have known liberal SF would value the rights of whales and dolphins over the rights of US citizens. Let the Navy conduct training the way they are supposed to.

Whats next....the courts stopping the US Army from FTX exercises....out of fear they may pollute


4 posted on 01/05/2008 4:07:03 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Aliens are not "undocumented immigrants"....Are murderers "population control specialists"?)
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To: neverdem

If this barking moonbat judge thinks that sonar pings are damaging the sea life, they she’s gonna hate it when they start using whales as practice targets. /s

There are third world dictators who don’t assume as much power as some of these activist judges.


5 posted on 01/05/2008 4:11:31 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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To: neverdem

According to the environmentalists it’s better to save a whale than to be able to see a Chinese submarine.


6 posted on 01/05/2008 4:20:15 AM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom)
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To: neverdem

Tow that liberal SOB behind an LA Class sub and let him send morse code on a kazoo when he sees any wildlife in danger.


7 posted on 01/05/2008 5:16:31 AM PST by Feckless (En Temps)
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To: neverdem
Florence-Marie Cooper
Born 1940 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Federal Judicial Service: Judge, U. S. District Court, Central District of California
Nominated by William J. Clinton on July 14, 1999, to a seat vacated by Linda H. McLaughlin; Confirmed by the Senate on November 10, 1999, and received commission on November 15, 1999.
8 posted on 01/05/2008 5:26:00 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Nominated by William J. Clinton

I am shocked, shocked.

9 posted on 01/05/2008 5:55:37 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

This is why Hillary MUST be stopped.


10 posted on 01/05/2008 6:10:38 AM PST by omega4179 (No Rinos!)
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To: neverdem
...a federal judge has ordered...

Yeah...sure...right...no problem, judge...absolutely.

Classic case of "The Law" being an ASS.

11 posted on 01/05/2008 6:14:32 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: omega4179
This is why Hillary MUST be stopped.

Maybe she has been already, although God knows who Obama would nominate!

12 posted on 01/05/2008 6:22:14 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: joebuck

Yeah! The hell with the courts! Let’s let the military run the entire country!!! (/sarcasm to idiot)


13 posted on 01/05/2008 6:30:09 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: flynmudd
According to the environmentalists it’s better to save a whale than to be able to see a Chinese submarine.

If you think that we should be relying upon training exercises to discover Chinese submarines, or can't train in other areas, etc., then I respectfully suggest you're off-base.

14 posted on 01/05/2008 6:49:16 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: neverdem

This is BS


15 posted on 01/05/2008 7:28:52 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK!)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace; joebuck
>Let’s let the military run the entire country!!!

Step away from the screen and put down whatever you are taking.

The courts cannot run the military, you nut.
The courts, even if you do not like it do not run the entire country.

There's this little thing enshrined in the Constitution called the Separation of Powers and thats the way that it is in America.

16 posted on 01/05/2008 7:40:01 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: bill1952

You’re correct. The courts can run the military and the military cannot run the country. Neither should have power over the other.


17 posted on 01/05/2008 7:54:26 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: neverdem

How about putting Flo on trial by a military tribunal for interfering with national defense?


18 posted on 01/05/2008 8:02:36 AM PST by isrul
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To: neverdem

Appropriate Navy response:

“Sorry ma’am, I don’t recall any black-robed *ssh*l*s in my chain of command.”


19 posted on 01/05/2008 8:27:46 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (When Ehud Olmert had his bris, they threw away the baby and saved the foreskin.)
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To: neverdem

Wow, for a minute there I thought they meant protect Marines against Bu!!sh^t charges during a time of war....my mistake


20 posted on 01/05/2008 8:29:46 AM PST by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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