Posted on 01/04/2008 7:27:38 AM PST by Puppage
Danbury (WTNH) _ Protesters gathered outside Danbury City Hall tonight to rally against a plan that will crackdown on crime involving illegal immigrants.
"Immigrant rights are under attack! What do we do! Stand up! Fight back," was the rally cry outside City Hall.
Working with federal immigration agents, two to four Danbury police officers would be trained to handle immigration investigations, arrests, detainments and even begin the deportation process.
Inside, dozens of citizens in favor of the plan say it is critical to curb crime committed by Danbury's illegal population.
"We chronically hear that we need tools, we need things, to help us to do our job better. To help us know who we're dealing with and who we're working with. I agree. I think we need to do that," said Common Council President, Joe Cavo.
But all that power worries some residents.
"If an immigrant, documented or undocumented is a victim of a crime, they are not going to come forward to the police and talk to the police and report those crimes if they feel they can't trust the police and that they might be detained, questioned, deported," said Jean Hislop of the group Stop the Raids.
Hislop also says adopting the program would encourage racial profiling, something some say already runs rampant in the city.
"We need to know who's here. We need to know who's in this country and one of the things that I'm really interested in is the criminal element of this. We need to find out whose here that shouldn't be here and that's here committing crimes," Cavo said.
The measure was referred to committee and a vote is expected. If it passes, Danbury would be the first city to adopt the ICE training program.
If I had a car I’d head up north. I’d like all illegal immigrants out of the state I live in, thanks.
Sentence #2 - "Immigrant rights are under attack!
And here we go again. Some people just can't get their minds around the definition of "illegal" immigrant vs. "legal" immigrant.
“If an immigrant, documented or undocumented is a victim of a crime, they are not going to come forward to the police and talk to the police and report those crimes if they feel they can’t trust the police and that they might be detained, questioned, deported,” said Jean Hislop of the group Stop the Raids.
Translation: We can’t trust the police to ignore the law like cops do in Mexico, therefore our RIGHT to violate the law is being violated.
The world has been turned on its head. It’s time for the hammer.
Great! Then they'll get tired of it and go back home.
“ILLEGAL Immigrant rights are under attack! What do we do! Stand up! Fight back,”
Thats what we are doing...
we are standing up and fighting back. Illegal being the operative word.
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Interesting link in #2 which should give us all pause.
Danbury ONCE was a nice smaller city. It is no more. We are overwhelmed with illegals. It's probably as bad here as any smaller city outside of the southwest.
The house next to me was tripled in size, length-wise. The entire property, save for a little grass in front, was paved over. The illegals moved in. Cars all over the place. No Ingles spoken there.
Ditto for a number of other houses on my street. Once they were single- or two-family dwellings. Now they are mini-apartment buildings crammed with illegals.
There is a smallish "core" of Anglos left on my street, but eventually they, too, will be gone.
When I retire (two more years), I'll fix up this old place and sell for whatever I can get, to get out - even if I have to set a price at only 66-75% of actual market value. Just to be somewhere else.
I will be looking to move to somewhere where everyone looks and speaks pretty much like me. Sorry if you perceive that as "racist" or "exclusionary". As a matter of fact, it's exactly how I've become. I've learned by the bitter taste of experience.
Any suggestions on where to go? I'm thinking West Virginia (western side) or perhaps north-central PA....
- John
The deviant media script should read: "Protesters gathered outside Danbury City Hall tonight to rally against a plan that will actually enforce existing law against illegal allien criminals"
"Immigrant rights are under attack!"
The deviant media script would be: "Illegal criminal invaders are being singled out for enforcement of the laws! Let's make sure the laws will not be enforced because we are above the law - We re Liberals!"
And responses like yours fuel the pro-illegal stance that being anti-lawbreaking is akin to racism.
If you want to move to a place where people look, act, and talk the same as you, then you’re probably in the wrong country. Chances are, if you’re a white American, you’re probably the product of a two white people who probably didn’t look and talk alike getting together and producing a child.
There are very few “pure” Irish-Americans, “pure” German Americans and “pure” Anglo-Americans anymore.
If you aren’t, then good luck finding a place in this country that caters to your specific ethnicity, and only your specific ethnicity. I’m not saying it’s not your right to discriminate, I’m just saying that discrimination based on race and ethnicity leads to a very slippery slope.
WOW!
Mr. Holier Than Thou; Have youe ever lived, or even been, in the type of hell-hole he’s talking about?
Climb out from your parents basement a do a little visiting arounf the country.
Seesh,
Nonsense. There are plenty of places in America that remain Euro-American in character, and that will continue to remain so in the near-distant future.
For example, take Iowa, the subject of much discussion and debate over the past few weeks as a result of the Iowa Caucuses. It is roughly 97% white - yes, you are reading correctly. Vermont is even moreso.
I said NOTHING about a "specific ethnicity" and you have absolutely no idea what my ethnic heritage is, in making your presumptuous comments. It's actually something of a "mix", but still Euro in nature.
If the slope is so slippery, why was the official immigration policy of the United States, prior to 1965, pretty much based on "race" and "ethnicity"?
Do you contend that the immigrants - legal and illegal - coming here today will be better for our cultural cohesion in the years to come?
Where do you live, if I might ask?
- John
Hey, Moron, when your neighborhood gets taken over by people who are commmitting crimes then you can speak that way.
LOL.
Yep, carefully staying the hand of righteousness is the challenge these days. But if one more alien punk tries to get in line ahead of me...SNAP! Major news hate crime with me getting vilified.
Actually, I’ve been to many places all over the country, including the supposedly “pure white” states of Minnesota (Where I live, by the way) and Iowa. You are hard pressed not to see at least one minority in any of the small towns in those states.
Also, it wasn’t a long time ago when whites of different ethnicities didn’t intermarry, and saw the other whites almost like how they saw blacks. Irish American-Italian American, Anglo American-Scandinavian American and Polish American and German American marriages were seen as an anomaly all up until even 40 or 50 years ago. To support my point anecdotally, my girlfriend’s grandmother looks down on her because she’s not full blooded Italian.
Also, to find somebody that thinks *just* like you is also hard to find and will not be found in a town that you move into, just because you’re a newcomer. Like it or not, you carry your old behaviors and experiences from the town you grew up in. It’s a psychological fact. You’ll be bringing in your old behaviors into a new setting, so automatically, when you move into a small town, you’re *not* going to think like everybody there.
For example, you live in a place with a high Mexican population. Chances are, you’ve probably had a high quality burrito. You move into a town where everybody’s the same, and say you have a hankering for a burrito. You go out with your neighbors to get some Mexican. There’s nothing around except for Taco Bell. The townsfolk think that’s the greatest Mexican food they’ve ever tasted. You disagree.
You think a Taco Bell burrito is probably the blandest burrito you’ve ever tasted. The townsfolk disagree and think you’re just a newcomer that likes to complain too much about his old life. In that situation, you’ve proven yourself not to think exactly the same as the new town you live in.
So to go to a place where people “look” and “think” like you would be impossible, because you’re a product of your environment, and you’ll automatically not fit in because they’re products of their environment, which would be different than yours.
And to boot, you’re seen as an outsider if you move into the type of towns that you’ve mentioned. They won’t welcome you as an ideological refugee.
Getting back to the point, we have a problem in this country which are undocumented immigrants coming into the country without criminal background checks, physical health checks or mental health checks who are taking the jobs of Americans. We need to get rid of them because they disturb the demographics of the nation, they put a strain on our labor market, and they’re not checked before they come to this country.
The left paints our side as xenophobes when we really just want to save our country from becoming another Netherlands. But in our quest to become another Netherlands, let’s not try to become another Saudi Arabia.
We're Christian.
If you need me to elaborate I will, but those two words encompass the whole difference.
As long as we are Christian none of your fears will be realized. If we aren't, none of your fears matter, because the slide can't be stopped.
You sound very young.
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