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Lawyer who beat IRS sues agents (Abolish The IRS With The Fair Tax!)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 4, 2008

Posted on 01/04/2008 5:06:16 AM PST by Man50D

A lawyer who was acquitted by a federal court trial jury of Internal Revenue Service accusations he failed to filed income tax returns for two years now is suing several IRS agents over their alleged improper disclosure of his personal information in the case.

A spokeswoman in the office of lawyer Tom Cryer told WND the case was assembled and filed by Cryer between Christmas Day and the end of 2007 and is expected to be placed on the docket in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Louisiana.

Last summer in federal court a jury voted 12-0 to find Cryer, of Shreveport, not guilty of the IRS allegations. He had been indicted on 2006 on government claims he failed to pay $73,000 to the IRS in 2000 and 2001.

His successful defense was based on a challenge to the IRS to prove a constitutional foundation for the nation's income tax.

Now his claim against the government's agents, according to a report in the Shreveport Times, explains four IRS criminal investigation division workers tried to destroy his reputation during the course of their investigation in the case.

The lawsuit alleges IRS agents Jimmy H. Sandefur, Darrin A. Heusel and Judge Armand, and a trainee, Patrick Potter "entered into a smear and fear campaign to destroy Plaintiff's good reputation and law practice."

Cryer alleges the federal workers repeatedly violated federal laws that restrict the disclosure of tax information, release of information about an investigation and publicizing information about a grand jury investigation.

The report said Cryer's lawsuit alleges the agents continually raised those issues in telephone calls, during personal visits and in letters exchanged with Cryer's clients during their investigation.

The action seeks $1,000 in damages for each incident in which a federal agent compromised Cryer's confidential information.

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To: Turret Gunner A20

Three different attempts to come back with a snappy reply. Was that three different voices in your head talking all at once?


161 posted on 01/04/2008 4:57:54 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: CaptainK
Flat tax please. The Fair Tax just sets up another bureaucratic hell hole to harass merchants.

The income tax began as a flat tax system. When the income tax was passed in 1913 the first tax ranged from merely 1% on the first $20,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $500,000. The few people who paid any tax fell into the 1% bracket as very few earned above $500,000 in 1913.

In the beginning, hardly anyone had to file a tax return because the tax did not apply to the vast majority of America's citizens. For example, in 1939, 26 years after the Sixteenth Amendment was adopted, only 5% of the population, counting both taxpayers and their dependents, was required to file returns. Today, more than 80% of the population is under the income tax.

Creating another flat tax will not solve the problem. It will only turn the clock back 95 years but will eventually evolve into the same complex, oppressive and burdensome income tax we have today. It will take far less time as the lobbyists who didn't exist 1913 will accelerate the process.
162 posted on 01/04/2008 5:01:30 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: CaptainK

like that wouldn’t happen in about 3 minutes flat with the FT...


163 posted on 01/04/2008 5:03:42 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The Fed purchases US Gov T-Bills with money created from thin air. The Fed is the biggest buyer of T-Bills.

And you should know that since you have posted endlessly about this subject whilst self-elevating yourself as some sort of guru.

And so there is no reason for the US Government to trade T-Bills for Fed Reserve Notes when in fact the US Constitution authorizes the United States to coin its own currency.

By federalizing the Federal Reserve under the Department of the Treasury, the United States could print its own notes and avoid having to pay interest. Of course this would be inflationary, but it is that way now. The gain would be in the elimination of up to 7% of federal spending (Page 83, 2006 1040 instructions).

http://www.unclefed.com/IRS-Forms/2006/06index_all.html

Got any more smart*ss remarks?


164 posted on 01/04/2008 5:30:40 PM PST by Hostage
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To: CaptainK

A flat tax always ALWAYS! evolves into what we have today. It does so because it is an Income tax and is supported by the 16th amendment.

The only way to keep the Income tax ‘flat’ is to pass a constitutional amendment that specifies the Income tax must be ‘flat’, however flat is defined and it better be defined clearly. But then such an amendment would conflict with the 16th, so the 16 would have to be repealed. But then again a flat tax could be construed as an excise tax which it once was. In fact many of the early challenges against the Income tax were precisely made on the basis of excise tax law.

The bureaucratic ‘hell hole’ that harasses merchants is the IRS, and payroll tax authorities, not sales tax authorities. Every business owner I have talked to hates HATES! the Income tax and is keen to hear more about the FairTax; in fact many are now supporting the FairTax and more are supporting it each day.


165 posted on 01/04/2008 5:38:37 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage

When the only tool you have is the hammer of propaganda, every problem looks like a nail.

I hope you have a great place to hide when it all goes bad, and they come looking for you...


166 posted on 01/04/2008 5:42:35 PM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: lewislynn

So what’s your point? I know what it is. It’s the same that you have made the last thousand posts. It’s nothing, a vacuous attempt to bolster your petty aims. In this case you once again use material that supports the FairTax and attempt to confuse it as supporting your nonsensical argument. It is you that have no clue, but I don’t expect the clueless to be aware of their impairment.

Yes, indeed, the sales tax authorities will be the States and they will expand their base. But the Federal government will contract its base administration of taxes to a virtually null footprint while maintaining legal jurisdiction.

In short, one base expands, another contracts.

Whether a business pays the Texas authority under the FairTax or the IRS under the present Income tax, the business still pays the tax. But under the FairTax the task of business in meeting its tax liability is vastly simplified and we can be assured that any successful business will go for what’s easier.

Decentralization of the federal government is a given because it cannot meet its current legacy liabilities. It must contract in every activity except vital national security interests. In other words, the waste can no longer be sustained. The changing demographics and entitlement liabilities will render all the New Deal programs insolvent without massive tax increases, monetary inflation or a reduction in spending. Tax increases ain’t gonna happen, inflation will not be tolerated; that leaves spending reduction as the only alternative. Thus, decentralization will happen.

And what you have posted is a statement from Texas that they are ready for decentralization.


167 posted on 01/04/2008 5:55:07 PM PST by Hostage
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To: xcamel

I am sure you are wishing ill on me and others as you are a classic example of a sad self-deluded person who uses psychological projection to mask their problems. By lashing out you at others you think it absolves you of your problems.

I expect only pissing contests from you as that is all I have ever seen you engaged in.


168 posted on 01/04/2008 6:03:19 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Prove it or provide a preponderance of evidence.

And you’d better be thorough or otherwise you are going to fail.


169 posted on 01/04/2008 6:08:11 PM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage
The Fed purchases US Gov T-Bills with money created from thin air.

Yes they do.

The Fed is the biggest buyer of T-Bills.

And yet, they own less than 100%.

And so there is no reason for the US Government to trade T-Bills for Fed Reserve Notes when in fact the US Constitution authorizes the United States to coin its own currency.

You're not recommending the government print money instead of taxing and borrowing, are you?

By federalizing the Federal Reserve under the Department of the Treasury, the United States could print its own notes and avoid having to pay interest.

What does the Fed do with the interest they earn on those notes?

The gain would be in the elimination of up to 7% of federal spending

Saving 7% of spending still doesn't eliminate government borrowing.

Got any more smart*ss remarks?

Yes. Did you take any math harder than algebra? Was math your weakest area in school?

170 posted on 01/04/2008 6:13:08 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the FairTaxery?)
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To: Hostage
Show me a few companies that have a tax burden higher than 23% of sales. And you’d better be thorough or otherwise you are going to fail.
171 posted on 01/04/2008 6:15:54 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the FairTaxery?)
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To: jim_trent

sounds like the same thing that Irwin Schiff tried. He lost. http://irwinschiff.blogspot.com/2005_09_11_archive.html


172 posted on 01/04/2008 6:19:20 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: CaptainK

Flat tax please. The Fair Tax just sets up another bureaucratic hell hole to harass merchants.
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Point 2: No additional burden for merchants ,, still just writing one check to the local/state tax collector who in turn forwards the federal cut to the treasury...

Point 1: We had a flat tax with the original incarnation of the income tax ,, and we “almost” had a flat tax under Reagan with just 2 tiers to the tax tables... what makes you think a single 23% income tax with no exemptions or deductions would stay that way?


173 posted on 01/04/2008 6:22:54 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Toddsterpatriot

http://www.paynoincometax.com/


174 posted on 01/04/2008 6:28:40 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: xcamel

like that wouldn’t happen in about 3 minutes flat with the FT...
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OK then ,, how would the system be corrupted? Tell us what you forsee happening in detail ,, you’ve apparently got the answers to everything...


175 posted on 01/04/2008 6:33:10 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: BOBWADE

LOL!

176 posted on 01/04/2008 6:34:27 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the FairTaxery?)
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To: Neidermeyer
OK then ,, how would the system be corrupted?

Rich people aren't paying enough. We're raising the rate 2%. People who spend up to $50,000 per year would pay an extra $1000, so we'll raise the prebate by $1000. Then those nasty rich people, everybody who spends more than $50,000, will share more of their good luck with the less fortunate among us.

That was easy!

177 posted on 01/04/2008 6:38:44 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the FairTaxery?)
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To: xcamel
"Yawn... another tax deranged curmudgeon."

I don't think a compulsive liar like you, with a single digit IQ, who doesn't know that the social security tax is not an income tax -- and refuses to learn that or anything else -- a very credible one to talk about someone being deranged.

It is, however, sometimes amusing to see just how stupid you can be.

178 posted on 01/04/2008 6:41:13 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: xcamel
>i?Here's a place you can go to work on that Irrational Rage Syndrome

Don't flatter yourself, you insignificant twerp.

179 posted on 01/04/2008 6:44:23 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: xcamel
Here.. and it’s post 250-363
pretty well puts a fork in your embedded tax delusion..

Speaking of delusion -- this thread has no "post 250-363.

You're cracking up, sport -- get help.

180 posted on 01/04/2008 6:54:14 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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