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COMMENTARY: The Huckabee Phenomenon and the fall of the old 'religious right'
Catholic Online ^ | 1/4/2008

Posted on 01/03/2008 8:38:17 PM PST by 11th_VA

Edited on 01/03/2008 9:13:06 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

LOS ANGELES (Catholic Online) - First, it was Larry Sabato and then it was Rush Limbaugh. Sabato is the Robert Kent Gooch Professor of Politics of the Center for Politics at the University of at the University of Virginia.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; christianvote; cults; giuliani; huckabee; ia2008; lds; mittromney; mormonism; prolife; romney
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To: 11th_VA

You’re proving Rush’s point with that statement. Evangelicals ARE lemmings if they vote for a guy based solely on faith and without regard to his actual record!


41 posted on 01/03/2008 9:23:02 PM PST by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: LenS

~”I’m one Catholic who wonders if once Huckabee’s finished demonizing the Mormons, he’ll decide we’re next on the hit list.”~

Nah, you make up too many voters. We don’t have that luxury.


42 posted on 01/03/2008 9:23:53 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: Unam Sanctam

But, Unam Sanctam, Huckabee’s nothing -like- Clinton. He plays the guitar to get votes.


43 posted on 01/03/2008 9:26:12 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: Bushwacker777

Jesus was also a big supporter of being responsible with money -especially other people’s money. Remember the parable of the good and bad stewards? The master goes away leaving his property in the hands of the two stewards. One steward wasted the master’s money and abused his servants while the other steward invested the money wisely and took care of the estate with care. Jesus said that the responsible steward would be rewarded.

Compare this to the stewards of the nation’s money. Are they good stewards or bad? Are they responsible with the taxpayers money? Do they respect that this is money that belongs to others? If people in government paid attention to this parable, our national finances would be in much better condition.


44 posted on 01/03/2008 9:28:42 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: roses of sharon

“When have the religious right not gotten the candidate they wanted nominated? Who and in what year?”

Pat Robertson came in #2, ahead of then Vice President George HW Bush, in the 1988 Iowa Caucuses.


45 posted on 01/03/2008 9:29:37 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: 11th_VA

“I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ.” - Huckabee

If that represents his view, then I’m not interested and will vote otherwise in my primary. Maybe I could care less if he were to take this nation back for Zeus, Buddha, Mohammed or whatever floats his boat, problem that I find might be that these statements just sound like hot air and if he maybe into big government, forget about it. I’m pro life but I’m not a supporter for big government, return responsiblity back to the individuals that make up our republic, stop with this religious or political socialism. Maybe we don’t want to win in November, well Iowa maybe just one state there are still quite a few left to go, we’ll see how this strategy pans out.


46 posted on 01/03/2008 9:31:28 PM PST by bubbatrouba
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To: Philly Nomad
Has Huckabee agreed and promised to propose a RTL Amendment?

Did GWB?

When has a Constitutional Amendment been debated in the primaries? In any primary, of any year?

In any House or Senate races? When have the American people been asked to debate this?

And what does an abortion amendment have to do with our troops in two war theaters, right now, this very night they are sitting in a sandbox with headchoppers surrounding them on all sides, and Syria and Iran with nukes, FGS.

47 posted on 01/03/2008 9:33:04 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: 11th_VA

Exit polls prove Rush was right.

Sadly right.

This is bad news for the Republican party, that will enable the Democrats to win majorities and peg the GOP, with alas some justification, as a bunch of creationist boobs who will fall for the ol’ preacher-man routine over real credible candidates for President.

The ClusterHuck will mean the next Jimmy Carter - Obama - will be president.


48 posted on 01/03/2008 9:35:18 PM PST by WOSG
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To: Unam Sanctam
One can be committed to faith, life, family and biblical values and still believe in a strong economy, limited government and liberty as opposed to "liberal", big government solutions. In fact, liberalism has led to strongly anti-worker, anti-faith, anti-family, anti-biblical value outcomes most everyplace it has been tried.

One can be. I miss those kinds of GOP social+economic conservative voters. Where did they go?

49 posted on 01/03/2008 9:36:37 PM PST by WOSG
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To: 11th_VA
If Huckaboom wins the nomination, it won’t be because he is a evangelical, it will be because he communicates and connects with a larger portion of the electorate than the others. The “Christian” aspect of who he is as a candidate will only carry him so far.

To me he is Bill Clinton without all the personal baggage, with better skills and decision making faculties, shaded to the right, instead of the left.

50 posted on 01/03/2008 9:37:22 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: EDINVA
So one guy, back decades, they did not get?

Hardly worth all the sniveling about being dissed, a GOP stepchild, threatening 3rd party, leaking emails about how often a candidate goes to church, (FT) who is a good enough Christian, what candidate has an unacceptable religion, and who will lose their soul and go to hell for voting for a certain candidate (RG).

Good grief.

51 posted on 01/03/2008 9:39:47 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: tantiboh

Romney is still in the game. He got the percentage he needed and the result he needed to keep going. He’s our best candidate for the general election.

Obama will be a truly dreadful President. As bad as Carter. NO, I take that back. Huckabee will be a Carter. Obama will just be Liberal.


52 posted on 01/03/2008 9:43:45 PM PST by WOSG
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To: WOSG
Huck’s communication skills will allow him to tout his banning of nationwide smoking, his healthcare message, his dissing of the President on Iraq, his closing of Gitmo and an end to interrogation of terrorists.

Wow, Obama could have a running mate.

53 posted on 01/03/2008 9:44:35 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Unam Sanctam

“I don’t recall any Republican Christian politician using and abusing his religion for political gain as much as Huckabee. It smacks of Bill Clinton’s photo ops walking to church with a Bible in his hand,”

Huckster is another Clinton, just with an R instead of a D.


54 posted on 01/03/2008 9:44:56 PM PST by WOSG
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To: EDINVA

Yeah, but Robertson is sane.


55 posted on 01/03/2008 9:47:11 PM PST by Bushwacker777
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To: WOSG

Look, I’m as staunch a Romney guy as anybody. But we should not kid ourselves. Romney didn’t take a knockout blow, but he’s doubled over and wheezing. This was -very- damaging to his campaign.

The only way for Romney to win is to beat McCain in New Hampshire - a less likely feat, now - and take advantage of a Huckabee meltdown, which may or may not happen. I’d give him one chance in ten.


56 posted on 01/03/2008 9:49:12 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: WOSG
This is bad news for the Republican party, that will enable the Democrats to win majorities and peg the GOP, with alas some justification, as a bunch of creationist boobs who will fall for the ol’ preacher-man routine over real credible candidates for President. The ClusterHuck will mean the next Jimmy Carter - Obama - will be president.

You got it correct except that The Hildabeast will take the big states & win the nomination. Tonight proves that Iowa stands for "idiots out walking around".

57 posted on 01/03/2008 9:49:27 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: roses of sharon

People don’t quit smoking because you ban the item, they do so because you present them with medical evidence that maybe smoking might not be such a wise decision, same with drugs in general. We need real leadership now, not yesterday or someday but now. Leadership that doesn’t just mouth respect but acts with respect to the people in this great country. People that try to ban things have no respect for individual rights, hence they disrespect the constitution. Either you love us warts and all or maybe you don’t belong in the Whitehouse. Should we ban gasoline too since people can hurt themselves with it? Time for the politic to change, time for new ideas, and responsibility. Huckabee appears to give off a distrust of common sense, if he thinks of banning smoking.


58 posted on 01/03/2008 9:52:20 PM PST by bubbatrouba
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To: Unam Sanctam

Huckabee has surged because he won a couple of debates and he’s got evangelical support. If a quick rise can happen to the liberal pro-life evangelical Huckster, it can happen to the conservative pro-life evangelical Hunter.

I do not know Duncan Hunter’s strategy. However, he may yet surprise us even before New Hampshire. Because he has campaigned in Wyoming, which has a race before New Hampshire, and no one else is campaigning there.

Wyoming to Hold Overlooked GOP Caucus Before New Hampshire
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947693/posts

Then there’s New Hampshire.


59 posted on 01/03/2008 9:52:54 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: 11th_VA
Huckabee as a Christian is more dangerous than an atheist who is willing to let the Constitution rule. Like Hillary, he has an "inspired" agenda of how things should be, which he will micro-manage just like he did as Governor of Arkansas. I'm scared of his idea of pardoning prisoners, giving hand-outs like tuition assistance to illegals, and thinking that the state can confiscate the income of hard working citizens for special programs, their special pet causes, like universal Pre-K!

This man is dangerous and Iowas have just bought his snake oil!

60 posted on 01/03/2008 9:53:54 PM PST by MHT
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