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COMMENTARY: The Huckabee Phenomenon and the fall of the old 'religious right'
Catholic Online ^ | 1/4/2008

Posted on 01/03/2008 8:38:17 PM PST by 11th_VA

Edited on 01/03/2008 9:13:06 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

LOS ANGELES (Catholic Online) - First, it was Larry Sabato and then it was Rush Limbaugh. Sabato is the Robert Kent Gooch Professor of Politics of the Center for Politics at the University of at the University of Virginia.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; christianvote; cults; giuliani; huckabee; ia2008; lds; mittromney; mormonism; prolife; romney
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To: cowdog77

Really?

Enlighten me.


101 posted on 01/03/2008 10:54:41 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon
I think we,the conservatives are doing our part.The RNC/GOP are hiding under they're desks doing nothing..We are void of any leadership.Hunter and a few others are always in the mix but our elected party as a hole are absent..There was no Fight against illegal immigration From our party we the people stopped it.They tried to screw us.The GOP/RNC has sold us down the river.I'm a conservative,not a go with the flow republican....
102 posted on 01/03/2008 10:56:29 PM PST by jd792
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To: WOSG

~”And if the race is a Romney v McCain v Huckabee race, Romney is BY FAR the most acceptable qualified and credible candidate.”~

Agreed, without qualification. But if he doesn’t win NH, he won’t win MI - Huckabee’s almost tied with him there right now, and MI won’t get the buzz of NH if Romney does take it, anyway. Without NH and MI, Romney will fall flat on his face in SC, and Giuliani will take NV.

Let’s face it. He -needed- IA. He -could- recover if he wins NH, but there’s not a chance he’ll take the nomination if he loses there.


103 posted on 01/03/2008 10:59:01 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: Kevmo

~”...though I could say that Thompson didn’t meet expectations.”~

The funny thing is, Thomson actually did meet expectations in IA. Just not yours.


104 posted on 01/03/2008 11:01:42 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: cowdog77

Your language suggests you need to work on your first position. The One you say you follow would never say the things you said. Perhaps you are the one who has been brainwashed??!!


105 posted on 01/03/2008 11:04:53 PM PST by landerwy (Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness!)
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To: rob777
Rush was also right about abortion not being the defining issue. Unless you adher to the conservative principles as a whole you are not going to get anything but opposition and accomodation about abortion.

I have mentiiioned this on another thread, but in an interview with Charlie Rose, Fred Thompson enunciated his conservative principles. Rose said Fred had not mentioned abortion or gay marriage. Fred informed him those were issues which were decided by guiding principles. He said if you adherred to conservative principles, you had to decide the abortion issue on theprolife side.

vaudine

106 posted on 01/03/2008 11:08:49 PM PST by vaudine (RO)
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To: tantiboh

Who do you see getting the nomination if not Romney? And don’t say Fred or Duncan. I’ve had enough nonsense today.


107 posted on 01/03/2008 11:09:11 PM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: jd792
I understand, but Huck has vowed to work with Dims, use civil discourse, he says Obama won because like him, Americans wanted “change”, they want help not partisanship. He is campaigning with liberal parlance and programs.

Sounds same ol, same ol, to me.

108 posted on 01/03/2008 11:10:50 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Checkers

If Romney doesn’t win NH, then it’s down to -shudder- McCain or Huckabee. Both candidates I’ve promised myself I would never vote for.


109 posted on 01/03/2008 11:13:48 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

Wrong.

He’s got the resources to keep going.

The others have to pick and choose their states.


110 posted on 01/03/2008 11:17:05 PM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: Checkers

Well, I know now they don’t give a damn about a strong foreign policy, or a wartime President being elected.


111 posted on 01/03/2008 11:18:51 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: tantiboh
The ‘religious right’ is on a course that will rip the conservative coalition to shreds. Liberals have nothing to fear.

The irony is that, by insisting on the "100% or Nothing" course in regards to the pro-life issue, they will be putting an ultra-liberal in the White House that will keep Roe v. Wade as the supreme law of the land in all 50 states for decades to come.

In America's current political reality, the pro-life side and the pro-abortion side both have ZERO chance of getting an Abortion Amendment, pro or con, enshrined into the Constitution.

The only realistic change is having a Supreme Court that believes in original intent and not penumbras overturn Roe v. Wade so that abortion may return as a State's issue as the Tenth Amendment intended issues not mentioned in the Constitution to be.

Abortion could easily be outlawed in Iowa if Roe v. Wade were overturned by such a Supreme Court but, by insisting on the impossible, they are ensuring that abortion will remain legal in Iowa for decades to come as Ruth Ginsburg clones fill the next Supreme Court vacancies.

112 posted on 01/03/2008 11:19:26 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Checkers

Forbes proved that money by itself won’t win elections.

I’m a major opponent of fanboyism. I am a Romney supporter, but I don’t like seeing it for him, either.

Does Romney have a shot? Sure. But it’s a triple bank shot. I’m still rooting, but it does no good to merely cheerlead.


113 posted on 01/03/2008 11:24:37 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: Unam Sanctam
He is the one makingdirty, disingenuous comments about Mormon beliefs...

So has anyone called him on any false statements he's made?


Hmmmmmm?


114 posted on 01/03/2008 11:24:57 PM PST by XR7
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To: Polybius

Absolutely correct. Good analysis.

Pity that the Iowans don’t seem to see it that way.

If Huckabee is nominated, things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.


115 posted on 01/03/2008 11:26:37 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: XR7

Yes. Extensively, at least around here.


116 posted on 01/03/2008 11:27:18 PM PST by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh; Polybius

Nobody with any political experience can pass the litmus test. Just one of the reasons why religion and politics don’t mix.


117 posted on 01/03/2008 11:28:24 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: tantiboh

I don’t recal anyone actually pointing out any false statements he made.
Insensitive? Maybe.
False? Let’s see.


118 posted on 01/03/2008 11:30:34 PM PST by XR7
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To: tantiboh

Somebody has to win.

Only Mitt and Rudy have the resources for Super Tuesday.

Huck might still be in if can get out the evangelicals like in Iowa.

Do you think Fred or Duncan will be around on Feb. 5th? I don’t.

The big question is McCain: Will the GOP remember his various stabs in the back and pay him back? Or will the GOP bend over and say “thank you, John McCain”?


119 posted on 01/03/2008 11:35:20 PM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: XR7

The “Jesus and Satan” comment was deliberately misleading.

Where I come from, a half-truth is still a lie.

Still, it wasn’t the deciding factor in this race.


120 posted on 01/03/2008 11:36:07 PM PST by tantiboh
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