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RON PAUL to DFU on Iowa radio - he would not stop ship with nuclear missiles from N. Korea to Iran
WHO RADIO in Des Moines ^ | 1-3-08 | dfu

Posted on 01/03/2008 9:15:39 AM PST by doug from upland

For those who have doubts that Ron Paul would be an acceptable commander in chief, your doubts would have been absolutely confirmed if you listened to him this morning on WHO 1040 talk radio in Des Moines, Iowa.

He came on Jan Mickelson's show at about 8:50am, Pacific Time. I was the second caller.

After complimenting him on his commitment to the Constitution, I asked a question about foreign policy. If any of you can pull the podcast, you can hear the conversation.

The question went something like this: Dr. Paul, if a shipment of nuclear tipped missiles was heading from North Korea to Iran, knowing the position of Ahmadinejad and the mullahs, would you stop that ship or sink it?

His answer was stunning. He very quickly answwered, "No, why would we do that?" After that question back to me, he commented that there was almost zero chance of that happening. He said that if he knew they planned to use them against us, he would take action. But they know they would be obliterated.

I wanted to challenge him further over Iran's stated goal of destroying Israel, but I was apparently cut off by the host and couldn't do it.

There you go, folks. Dr. Paul is an unthinkable commander in chief.


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KEYWORDS: 911truther; ia2008; iowa; libertarians; morethorazineplease; randpaultruthfile; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile
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To: GulfBreeze
Ron Paul is NO constitutionalist. He is an old contrarian hiding behind what he WHISHES the Constitution says. Paul is an idiot and anyone still following this nutjob loser is an idiot.

Bingo!

Ron Paul is prepared to fight wars the way Thomas Jefferson would. Of course Jefferson didn't have to face weapons that could kill millions of people. And even Jefferson would be in favor of issuing Letters of Mark and Reprisal to stop the spread of WMDs.

141 posted on 01/03/2008 12:36:56 PM PST by kidd
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To: WalterSkinner

I don’t know if that is a very good endorsement. :)


142 posted on 01/03/2008 12:44:35 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: jmeagan

Thank you. I’ve asked on a couple of different threads, but no one had any idea. I was wondering if he could come in 3rd if there is a small turn-out on the Republican side. With what you’ve said, it sounds like that is a possibility.


143 posted on 01/03/2008 12:46:28 PM PST by penowa
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To: doug from upland
I give great credit to Tom Tancredo and forcing the candidates to talk about dealing with the illegal invasion. If Paul forces candidates to talk about the Constitution and where we have lost our way, that is a good thing.

Agree 100%. That's why I spend so much time defending the guy even though I prefer Thompson. It's not because I "hate Jews" or "don't support the troops" or any of that silliness.

144 posted on 01/03/2008 12:48:56 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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To: WalterSkinner
Ha ha. That pick made me think of this!
145 posted on 01/03/2008 12:52:19 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: jmc813

Defend him on the Constitution; but he can’t be defended in his view of our legitimate national interests.


146 posted on 01/03/2008 1:01:06 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So you’re actually predicting Paul will come in first in Iowa? That’s your official prediction?


147 posted on 01/03/2008 1:09:38 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: doug from upland

His lip will sink his ship.


148 posted on 01/03/2008 1:14:18 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: jmc813
Here are my predictions for Iowa:

Huckabee - first Romney - second McCain - third Thompson - fourth Paul - fifth Giuliani - sixth
149 posted on 01/03/2008 1:24:21 PM PST by End Times Crusader (John McCain 2008 - Leadership for America)
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To: lormand
[Ron Paul has already stated that America only needs one Submarine with nukes as a defense and deterent.]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

LOL.

If that’s true, Mr. Paul would quickly have a lot of navy members and their families very angry at him.

That one Nuke Submarine would have to be on duty and patrolling 24/7, 365 days a year.

150 posted on 01/03/2008 1:45:46 PM PST by Col Freeper
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To: All

And Ron Paul doesn’t understand Jihad.

He blames America, even when Jihad is GLOBAL, and has been in existence for centuries before our country was even born.

Ron Paul would not keep us safe.


151 posted on 01/03/2008 2:01:16 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: been_lurking
The original question, from the post here, was:

Dr. Paul, if a shipment of nuclear tipped missiles was heading from North Korea to Iran, knowing the position of Ahmadinejad and the mullahs, would you stop that ship or sink it?

So maybe people are only talking about stopping and boarding, but the actual question included sinking, which would be "attack and destroy".

152 posted on 01/03/2008 2:19:05 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DugwayDuke

Yes, I personally feel that way. However, I don’t know if that means the United States has a moral duty OR authority to intervene whereever one party is unfairly attacked by another party.

Further, even my personal moral obligation doesn’t mean if I see someone who looks shifty, and think they MIGHT be planning to attack someone, I can walk up to them and shoot them just to be safe.


153 posted on 01/03/2008 2:20:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: been_lurking

You misunderstood. If our troops were not in other countries, they would not be targets, because they would not be there.

The person who mentioned attacks on our troops was suggesting that since we have troops in countries that Iran might be threatening, that threat was a “national security” issue.

It wasn’t about whether Iran was targetting our troops, it was about whether our troops were “targets” only because they happen to be in the place Iran would want to target.

Reminding everybody once again that I am trying to advance the discussion of what I consider a serious question, and not specifically arguing MY point of view (since that is boringly too much like everybody else’s point of view), my argument here was NOT in any way meant to mimic any argument others may have made about our troops being targets because the aggressors are mad that we are there.

It was merely a matter of being physically located where the attacks were happening. If you aren’t where the attacks happen, you don’t get hit by them.

And I’m actually not a big fan of us putting our troops somewhere JUST so that an attack on someone turns into an attack on us.


154 posted on 01/03/2008 2:24:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: been_lurking

Yes it is, but that is a separate issue from whether we should sink a ship carrying nuclear weapons to Iran.


155 posted on 01/03/2008 2:25:59 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: doug from upland
WE CANNOT ALLOW IRAN TO BECOME A NUCLEAR POWER.

Russia & Pakistan already got nukes. They can lob them at us just as easily as Iran would. What's to stop Iran from getting them from them? I'm not condoning their behavior, but if they want them they'll get them from somewhere without our knowledge.

156 posted on 01/03/2008 2:41:22 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: doug from upland

“Ron Paul is certifiably insane.” © 2008


157 posted on 01/03/2008 2:46:28 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: doug from upland
Can we get you to replace some of the Yahoo's on Fox?
Na, you are probably over qualified.
158 posted on 01/03/2008 2:50:05 PM PST by Zathras
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To: been_lurking
Once again, no reply to the actual question/issue at hand.

I work for a living. Hence the break in-between my posts here. I don't sit my ass on this computer 24/7 like you chumps do.

You simply attempt to deflect. Ron Paul's answer shows that he is clearly unqualified.

Paul's foreign policy is a breath of fresh air. He gave a speech in front of VETERANS and stated that no American soldiers will be fighting under a UN or foreign flag or being involved in nation-building. It's time we start defending America first.

Will you still be contributing to Ron Paul's campaign after the Iowa results are released? Seeing how he is polling so well and all...

And you're a fool to believe those same biased polls that have already been debunked by Paul's grassroots support. I guarantee you Paul will be in the Top 3 today.

159 posted on 01/03/2008 2:50:22 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"So the question is, what authority does the United States government have in preventing a particular country from obtaining those weapons?

Copyright Law?

160 posted on 01/03/2008 2:51:42 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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