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RON PAUL to DFU on Iowa radio - he would not stop ship with nuclear missiles from N. Korea to Iran
WHO RADIO in Des Moines ^ | 1-3-08 | dfu

Posted on 01/03/2008 9:15:39 AM PST by doug from upland

For those who have doubts that Ron Paul would be an acceptable commander in chief, your doubts would have been absolutely confirmed if you listened to him this morning on WHO 1040 talk radio in Des Moines, Iowa.

He came on Jan Mickelson's show at about 8:50am, Pacific Time. I was the second caller.

After complimenting him on his commitment to the Constitution, I asked a question about foreign policy. If any of you can pull the podcast, you can hear the conversation.

The question went something like this: Dr. Paul, if a shipment of nuclear tipped missiles was heading from North Korea to Iran, knowing the position of Ahmadinejad and the mullahs, would you stop that ship or sink it?

His answer was stunning. He very quickly answwered, "No, why would we do that?" After that question back to me, he commented that there was almost zero chance of that happening. He said that if he knew they planned to use them against us, he would take action. But they know they would be obliterated.

I wanted to challenge him further over Iran's stated goal of destroying Israel, but I was apparently cut off by the host and couldn't do it.

There you go, folks. Dr. Paul is an unthinkable commander in chief.


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KEYWORDS: 911truther; ia2008; iowa; libertarians; morethorazineplease; randpaultruthfile; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile
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To: mnehrling
The Constitution also puts a lot of emphasis on honoring treaties and we are cosigners of the Nuclear Nonproliferation treaty.

Yeah, but treaties are unconstitutional too aren't they, just ask Ron.

101 posted on 01/03/2008 10:40:23 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: doug from upland
I wanted to challenge him further over Iran's stated goal of destroying Israel, but I was apparently cut off by the host and couldn't do it.

Good move by the host, actually ... Mr. Paul didn't need a second whack with that axe. You slew him on the first blow. Nicely done.

102 posted on 01/03/2008 10:41:45 AM PST by r9etb
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To: mnehrling
Excuse my inattention, but didn't Bush convene talks including China to try to put pressure on NK? I seem to remember that, but not sure.

vaudine

103 posted on 01/03/2008 10:43:10 AM PST by vaudine (RO)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You've awoken the Pavlov dogs here

Pot calling the kettle black.

Your one-liner knee-jerk defense of every idiotic statement from Ron Paul is the most vivid example of a Pavlov response.

104 posted on 01/03/2008 10:43:18 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: Erik Latranyi; Extremely Extreme Extremist; doug from upland

Iran hasn’t been or is being ignored:

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?searchword=iran&option=com_search&Itemid=

Iraq to discuss border agreement with Iran

Iran may now be cooperating with U.S. in Iraq

Iranian rockets found, turned over to Coalition Forces

US-Iran to discuss Iraq on December 18

US, Iranian Officials to Discuss Iraq Security Issues

Much more at MNF-Iraq.com


105 posted on 01/03/2008 10:43:39 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You know that such a scenario is highly unlikely to happen

And how, precisely, do we "know" that? What information there is, seems to indicate a fair level of nuclear cooperation between NK and Iran.

106 posted on 01/03/2008 10:43:44 AM PST by r9etb
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To: doug from upland

Just when you thought Ron Paul couldn’t say something more stupid, he proves me wrong...


107 posted on 01/03/2008 10:46:21 AM PST by Vanbasten
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To: Greg F
Only four nations are not signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. North Korea, Pakistan, India, and China.

Israel isn't a signatorie. NK was, but they withdrew, legal, after violating it, illegal. The US under GWB has stopped and searched ships carrying North Korean cargo in the past, so this goes beyond speculation, and represents a change in policy.

108 posted on 01/03/2008 10:47:00 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
oes that mere risk give us authority to attack and destroy ships of other soveriegn nations that are not themselves violating international OR U.S. Law?

You are the only one suggesting "Attack" and "destroy", so your argument is a complete strawman.

None the less, boarding, inspecting, and seizing of nuclear arms shipped to Iran is in keeping with current international treaties and U.N. sanctions. Therefore, yes the U.S. would be acting legally.

109 posted on 01/03/2008 10:49:12 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Do you think you have a moral obligation to prevent harm to some one else at the hands of a third party?


110 posted on 01/03/2008 10:52:53 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; doug from upland
I agree with that, and just said in another post that maybe we should amend the constitution to reflect our new reality — because in some ways Paul’s argument on the constitution seems quite correct, and I justify ignoring it under the sound principle that the constitution is not a death wish.

It's this sort of thing that causes the British to tout the superiority of their unwritten constitution over our written one.

On balance, I prefer the written variety; however, sometimes the rational response to a specific situation runs far in advance of the written word, and the latter becomes an obstacle -- and potentially a dangerous one.

This is especially true when response times are on the order of hours or days, as opposed to the weeks or months required to deal with Congress or the Supreme Court.

111 posted on 01/03/2008 10:55:11 AM PST by r9etb
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And if our forces were not around the world doing peacekeeping duties, they wouldn’t be targets.

Such a load of crap.

They don't care one wit about our "international presence". That is an old worn-out propaganda lie designed to dupe simple-minded citizens like yourself. It seems to still work.

They just want to kill you and your family because you are American.

112 posted on 01/03/2008 10:55:35 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: CharlesWayneCT
blow up ships and kill people

Non starter. Those were your solutions and nobody else was even talking about them until you raised them.

Now boarding, inspecting, and seizing nuclear weapons in accordance with current treaties and UN sanctions will be perfectly legal, and expected.

113 posted on 01/03/2008 10:58:52 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: doug from upland
His answer was stunning. He very quickly answwered, "No, why would we do that?"

Ron Paul asked Republicans to vote for him. The voters very quickly answered, "No, why would we do that?"

114 posted on 01/03/2008 10:59:24 AM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
You are exposed as a hypocrite.

Well, not really "exposed", since he has always been known as a hypocrite by those who follow his postings.

115 posted on 01/03/2008 11:01:57 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: doug from upland

Excellent. Keep up the good work.


116 posted on 01/03/2008 11:01:57 AM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
..but today the idea that you can defend your country from within it’s own borders is outdated. Anybody can attack us from anywhere in the world and do so within a day.

Which is the exact opposite of Ron Paul's position on national defense.

He is a clueless nut job. I don't know who I pity more, him or his supporters.

117 posted on 01/03/2008 11:05:21 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm just curious as I have been wondering about this: Does Paul have some structure on the ground in Iowa to get voters to caucus? I know he has the $ to set up a serious outfit to get his people to caucus which is probably not true of Thompson or McCain, or Huckabee, but Huckabee has glommed on to existing groups like churches, etc.

If you are aware, I would appreciate your answer. Thanks.

118 posted on 01/03/2008 11:05:38 AM PST by penowa
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
"In your case, you probably should."

I will wait until Ron Paul becomes President and crack becomes legal. I will buy some from the local Paultard run "People's Farm-acy".

I'll let you know how it goes.

119 posted on 01/03/2008 11:21:24 AM PST by lormand (Ron Paul 08' - Just another internet fad)
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To: been_lurking

If we pulled out of the Middle East, they would not suddenly love us and end their centuries’ old goal of the domination of Islam. What it would do is embolden them. If they chased us out of the Middle East or out of anywhere in the world, what better recruiting tool would there be? Their strength would grow beyond comprehension. They would be strong enough to be collapsing governments and establishing Islamic states.


120 posted on 01/03/2008 11:22:21 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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