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Fox News at 3:00 PM, now dissing the Iowa Caucus(inoculating against a Huckabee and Obama win?)
Fox News(Sheperd Smith and Carl Cameron) | January 2, 2008

Posted on 01/02/2008 12:08:43 PM PST by Dane

Watching Fox news and the lead at 3:00 PM EST, was a rant by Shepherd and Carl, saying how Iowa doesn't matter, as Roger Ailes and Fox News spent millions covering it.

I guess Roger & Co, at Fox will not like the results(Huckabee and Obama winning and getting momentum).

Roger Ailes and his friend Rush Limbaugh, are not amused, thus this little hissy fit.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: carlcameron; elections; foxnews; hillary; huckabee; iowa; iowacaucus; obama; rogerailes; romney; rush; rushlimbaugh; shepherdsmith; talkradio
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To: penowa

Does it make sense that Huckabee would reveal his lack of knowledge in world affairs just when he has achieved # 1 status in Iowa?

The guy is a piker.


141 posted on 01/02/2008 6:28:19 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert; LibLieSlayer
You're too late. LOL! LLS has already convinced me that the reason Huckabee made the Rush faux pas is the same reason he made all the previous ones like revealing his pathetic grasp of foreign policy.

You're right. He is a "piker." That's the only logical conclusion that can be drawn.

142 posted on 01/02/2008 7:07:16 PM PST by penowa
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To: penowa
If you really do listen to Rush every day, you must have heard him say that he is NOT the spokesman for the GOP. He is a conservative, first and foremost. There is no way Rush would have any part of such a scheme. Besides, Huckabee is doing a pretty good job of knocking himself off lately.
143 posted on 01/02/2008 8:37:49 PM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: BurbankKarl
IMO, the whole thing was set up so that Hillary could wrap up the nomination ASAP, leaving the Republicans to fight it out and use up a lot of money picking their candidate. It has not turned out like she planned because the reality is that she is a horrible candidate.
144 posted on 01/02/2008 8:47:28 PM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: Dane
FYI Dane.....

Iowa has never mattered to any presidential election. It does not mater if you win, lose or don't even show up.

Candidates have easily been nominated after all three of those outcomes. Iowa is nothing more than a warm-up for super Tuesday, and it is a press exercise.

145 posted on 01/02/2008 8:56:50 PM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: OmegaMan
I disagree. Rush was up on a hard break and did not have time to finish the call properly. After the break, he replayed the entire call and attempted to respond to the caller. The caller kept saying he was not a one-issue voter, but it appeared that he was not interested in finding out anything about Huckabee that did not fit with his impression of him.

Huckabee is a social conservative, but is anything but conservative in the areas of taxes, spending and foreign policy. IMO, he is the mirror image of Guiliani who is a social liberal, but conservative in all of those other areas. Although I am definitely a social conservative, Huckabee is no more acceptable to me that Guiliani would be to someone who is primarily a social conservative.
146 posted on 01/02/2008 9:01:27 PM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: Dane
Jesus said that "many will come in my name. See to it that you are not deceived!!"

You need to be able to discern a little better than you do.

Don't fall for everyone who says they are Christians, because they will lead you astray.

Case in point, the sitting President.

Oh wait, you still think he walks on water don't ya? LOL

147 posted on 01/02/2008 9:18:07 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Dane
Iowa deserves to be dissed. The thought that such a backwater state filled with fundamentalist hicks, completely unrepresentative of the US population, would have such a large say in the presidential election is obscene.

We need to have a national primary.

148 posted on 01/02/2008 9:46:21 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

‘If Iowa doesn’t matter, I’m certainly putting myself through a lot of unnecessary work.’

Yep.

But its the thought that counts....(chuckle)


149 posted on 01/03/2008 5:25:02 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: OmegaMan

Not hardly. I heard it.

The Huckbot just kept citing points from Huckabee’s campaign website, not facts from his time as governor.

Hence, Rush finally cut him off because it was just a commercial for Huckabee.


150 posted on 01/03/2008 5:35:07 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Rush is not feuding with Huckabee - he’s clearing up misinformation and emphasizing what Huckabee is based on his record as governor. Huckabee is using this to get free airtime - and it will backfire on him with anyone who is a conservative.

All Rush’s said about Huckabee are two things - Huckabee is no conservative as Rush defines it, and Huckabee is saying “vote for me because I’m a Christian”, ie identity politics, a typical tactic of the left.


151 posted on 01/03/2008 5:39:58 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: srmorton
I do listen to Rush nearly every day and have since a station around here put him on the air. ('89?) Rush has changed a great deal since I first heard him. Yes, he says he's a conservative first, but for a long time, he has been more careful of how critical he is of Republicans in general. He never paints himself into a corner anymore so he can support any RINO with an "R" behind the name, if need be. If you can see no difference in his tone over the years, maybe you haven't listened to him as long as I have.

I like Rush a lot or I wouldn't continue to listen to him, but I don't trust him implicitly and I don't always see things as he does. And I agree with you that Huckabee is not ready for prime time and appears to be sabotaging his own campaign with senseless errors.

152 posted on 01/03/2008 7:02:54 AM PST by penowa
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To: srmorton; OmegaMan
I have to go with the analysis here. I am a Rush 24/7 subscriber. Mrs. Phantom Lord got it for me for Christmas. Thanks!

So I specifically sought out the segment with this call and the caller didn't even approach the ball park of kicking Rush's butt. Infact, after repeated listening, he was approaching seminar caller status.

All of the Hucks callers yesterday did poorly in making Huck a conservative. I can't wait to hear todays later tonight.

153 posted on 01/03/2008 12:42:07 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord
I, too, am a Rush 24/7 subscriber, but I was off yesterday and did hear the call in question. The caller in no way "kicked Rush's butt". In the many years that I have been listening to him, I have yet to hear a caller truly be able to do that!

When you get the chance to look at the website, you will see this quote from the Jay Leno Show last night:

HUCKABEE: I have a great respect for Barack Obama. I think he's a person who is trying to do in many ways what I hope I'm trying to do and that is to say let's quit what I call horizontal politics. Everything in this country is not left, right, liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican. I think the country is looking for somebody who's vertical, who's thinking, let's take America up and not down. And people will forgive you for being left or right --

If he is saying that Obama is the Democratic candidate he would consider himself most like, it should, just as Rush said, dispel any doubts about his being a conservative, much less another Ronald Reagan.
154 posted on 01/03/2008 5:50:09 PM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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