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A Degree of Insignificance (College Degrees getting to be useless nowadays)
WorldnetDaily ^ | 12/29/2007 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 12/29/2007 4:25:58 PM PST by SeekAndFind

.S. News & World Report, which has made a name for itself by ranking and announcing the best colleges every year, is now ranking and listing the best careers for young people. A comparison of the latest lists shows a shocking disconnect and makes for dispiriting holiday reading.

While the price of a college education has skyrocketed far faster than inflation, many careers for which colleges prepare their graduates are disappearing. U.S. News' Best Careers guide concludes, "college grads might want to consider blue-collar careers" because bachelor's degree holders "are having trouble finding jobs that require college-graduate skills."

Incredibly, U.S. News is telling college graduates to look for jobs that do not require a college diploma. Among the 31 best opportunities for 2008 are the careers of firefighter, hairstylist, cosmetologist, locksmith and security-system technician.

Where did the higher-skill jobs go? Both large and small companies are "quietly increasing off-shoring efforts."

Ten years ago, we were told we really didn't need manufacturing because it can be done more cheaply elsewhere, that auto workers and others should move to information-age jobs. But now the information jobs are moving offshore, too, as well as marketing research and even many varieties of innovation.

The flight overseas includes professional as well as low-wage jobs, with engineering jobs offshored to India and China. Thousands of bright Asian engineers are willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages, which is why Boeing just signed a 10-year, $1 billion-a-year deal with a government-run company in India.

Society has been telling high school students that college is the ticket to get a life, and politicians are pandering to parents' desire for their children to be better educated and so have a higher standard of living.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ba; bs; careers; college; degree; highereducation; insignificant; jobs; ma; ms; outsourcing
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To: dsc

““A Duke University spokesman said that 40 percent of Duke’s engineering graduates cannot get engineering jobs.”

Call the WAAAHMBULANCE - ickle educrat’s didies are in a series knot.

Could it be that prospective employers wonder if ‘Duke University Syndrome’, so perfectly demonstrated by the infamous “Duke 88”, might have infected Duke grads?


281 posted on 12/30/2007 4:59:57 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
His BME friends at NC State and UVa say the results are very similar at their schools.

BME is more difficult to offshore due to FDA issues. But, my son researched the placement data BEFORE he applied to college since I said he was on his own on Graduation Day +1.



Good for your son. But maybe you can enlighten the folks in this thread, exactly what does a bioengineer do ? Where are most of the areas of employment and who are hiring (other than hospitals ) ?

Thanks.
282 posted on 12/30/2007 5:06:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Biomedical engineers rarely work in hospitals, unless they are doing research or are involved in clinical trials. Generally, they design and develop medical devices, materials and instrumentation.

Here is the Biomedical Engineering Society’s webpage and description of what a BME does.

http://www.bmes.org/careers.asp

Thanks for asking.

BTW, Duke’s BME department is #2 in the USA behind Johns Hopkins. My son pulled his application to Duke when Nifong refuse to drop all of the charges after Crystal Gail Magnum recanted on the rape charge.


283 posted on 12/30/2007 5:29:04 PM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: rwfromkansas

I earned a B.S. in Early Childhood Education as well as a Masters in Collaborative Special Education, which focuses on diagnosing reading difficulties, assessing students with disabilities, meeting the needs of students with a variety of physical and intellectual disabilities, managing inappropriate behavior, and complying with complex federal laws. My college work was both rigorous and challenging. This doesn’t make me a rocket scientist, but it makes me no less a college graduate.


284 posted on 12/30/2007 5:51:18 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I beg to differ.


285 posted on 12/30/2007 5:52:41 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Which many—a great many (not all, but a majority) of us are ex-Navy nukes. With the resurgence of the nuclear industry we’re going to need not just engineers but technicians and maintenance/rent-a-techs for construction and outages. Hell, there aren’t enough folks around NOW willing to live out of a suitcase for six months a year despite the VERY good money it provides.


286 posted on 12/30/2007 6:15:27 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: rbosque
Actually, the full, complete, and accurate quote was, "Christ. Seven years of college down the drain. Might as well join the f***ng Peace Corps."

And let's not forget what the blurb said at the end of the movie:

Senator and Mrs. John Blutarsky--Washington, DC
287 posted on 12/30/2007 6:19:44 PM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: GinaLolaB

Waaaaaaaah! If you want to bash our President, go do it somewhere else.

Just for the heck of it — just how many calls have you made to your Representatives & Senators? How many letters have you written? How many faxes have you sent? How many miles have you traveled to make your voice heard? Did *you* outsource yourself?

There are very few shoulders here for crying like that. I hear DU loves people such as yourself.


288 posted on 12/30/2007 6:36:44 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Good Luck to him. All of his choices are good. The creme de la creme but extremely expensive, rigorous and difficult to get into: MIT - Massachusetts Institute Of Technology./Just Asking - seoul62..........


289 posted on 12/30/2007 7:38:36 PM PST by seoul62
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Sorry I offended you. Happy New Year


290 posted on 12/30/2007 8:18:00 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: Tribune7

Thanks! :)


291 posted on 12/30/2007 8:18:51 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: OCCASparky

You’re right!

:-)


292 posted on 12/30/2007 9:40:04 PM PST by rbosque ("A goverment big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away"----B. Goldwater)
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To: Amelia
No one seems to have told the Georgia Dept. of Ed., which thinks all students should be on college tracks, or the districts that are reducing vo-tech offerings...but it's gonna be hard to outsource plumbers, electricians, and automobile repairmen, I think.

CA schools are the same way - pushing all students to take the college prep classes, even those that aren't capable. So guess what is happening at the college level? About half the entering freshmen have to take remedial classes before taking college-level classes. And I'll bet most of those are doing it on our dime (grants).
293 posted on 12/30/2007 11:00:44 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: seoul62

He’s heard from them but we went there and he thought it was a bit too far from home. It’s also larger than what we want.


294 posted on 12/31/2007 3:45:38 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Barnacle

No, I’m not.


295 posted on 12/31/2007 7:11:56 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: SALChamps03

True; I was simply responding to that poster regarding education degrees not being education degrees for secondary teachers.

I have friends who were elementary ed, and it was not easy at my school.


296 posted on 12/31/2007 8:13:16 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

A starting salary of $32k is nothing to sneeze at - many in other fields make far less. If you look at teacher salaries/benefits 5-8 years down the road, they are comparable to the top of many professional career paths of someone with the same #years.

Teachers need to stop complaining.


297 posted on 01/01/2008 9:23:39 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Edward Watson

Sad, isn’t it, when all the degree means to a lot of employers is that the applicant can read, write a 5 paragraph essay, and do some basic math - the types of skills you could be assured a high school graduate from, say, 1980, had in abundance.

Now college is the new high school.


298 posted on 01/01/2008 9:27:40 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: tarheelswamprat

LOL - I went to Wake Forest :)


299 posted on 01/01/2008 9:36:48 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: nygoose

typical - a real lefty college there.


300 posted on 01/01/2008 9:39:15 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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